Sync 4 13.2"

[Stone17]

Just installed the system from fordsync4.com. Cost is $2,200 for the kit.
Right now the Ford Pass does not work. Waiting for the company to help me program the APIM module to the VIN.
They did send a OBD2 USB reader.

I think the Screen and APIM module is from a 2024 Mustang. They did remove all the Part# off the Screen and Module.

It come with two wire for the screen. See picture in post #2.

Will add about 2 to 3" spacer to bring the Screen up. Its blocking the under tray and Start Button.

11/8/2024
Big thinks to Jesse-Infotainment. I ordered an APIM (With Nav) from him and he programmed it. Alot of the issues are fixed for now (Just installed it 40 mins ago)


Pro:
Wireless iPhone Thing or Android auto

Working now:
Navigation is working (But got a APIM with NAV) (11/8/2024)
Ford Pass (Remote Start, Lock, unlock, Honk/Light Locate and Location)
Radio Button
Rear Camera
Rear A/C Control
Heated Seat Control
Sirius XM (Wrong radio in the program)

Cons:
AC vent knobs will be blocked. See Pictures.
Ford Pass Vehicle Health not working.

Video:

 

[Stone17]

Photo Dump.

 

[UNBROKEN]

Sorry but that’s just too big and out of place. Combine that with the things you listed that aren’t working and it’s a hard pass.

 

[2020FordRaptor]

Well I’ll say it’s cool for someone to be the guinea pig on this, I know a lot of people were asking on the FB groups. Interesting to see all the problems, I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be any. Wondering if those will be ironed out, some like the Nav seem to be set in stone. How does CarPlay work and the Apple Nav?

 

[Dale5403]

Well I’ll say it’s cool for someone to be the guinea pig on this, I know a lot of people were asking on the FB groups. Interesting to see all the problems, I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be any. Wondering if those will be ironed out, some like the Nav seem to be set in stone. How does CarPlay work and the Apple Nav?

Aren't Carplay and Apple Nav the same thing? I use Android so I'm not sure.

 

[2020FordRaptor]

Aren't Carplay and Apple Nav the same thing? I use Android so I'm not sure.

 

[Stone17]

Well I’ll say it’s cool for someone to be the guinea pig on this, I know a lot of people were asking on the FB groups. Interesting to see all the problems, I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be any. Wondering if those will be ironed out, some like the Nav seem to be set in stone. How does CarPlay work and the Apple Nav?

Look at my con list.

Right now we can't connect to the APIM using Forscan. It no loading.

 

[Stone17]

Aren't Carplay and Apple Nav the same thing? I use Android so I'm not sure.

I don't have an iPhone.

 

[powerboatr]

Maybe I missed something
But the vendor that sold that, is he a ford up. Fitter? Licensed by ford?

I think he is in China or ?
I emailed them a few times trying to get info
He did finally send a few pics, but his translations , gave me pause
I sure hope he works with you to fix it
The apim load may also be out of date, and if it's from a mustang...maybe he didnt re program it correctly

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

You cant pay for the connected nav. It is not required when putting Sync 4 in Sync 3 vehicles.

THe gateway modules are 100% different in sync 4 native vehicles. The Sync 4 APIM receives telematics via ethernet. There is no vin stored in any APIM. Vin is absorbed once its connected. You will never ever be able to update the sync 4 apim. You will not receive OTAs. The updates for SYNC 4 are way different than Sync 3. APIM part numbers are not really important. It only matters in native SYnc 4 vehicles. otherwise they are all the same outside 6 pin LVDS or 4pin.

Sync 4 is a great system in Native sync 4 vehicles. In non native it is a compromise. I have done Sync 4 in older F150 ad super duty and as long as you go in knowing what to expect then it can be good. I require a waiver of things to be acknowledged before ill ever ship one out. I do this so no one can say they werent aware.

The OEM Explorer Display options suck. Not sure why ford did what they did and the 25 eplorer is not sync 4 it is Google OS now and the APIM control sync and cluster.

I hope they get you sorted out but I dont think it will be much of an option for them. I could probably make some of it work but there will still be other issues. Even with me doing it there is about a 80% functionality versus native sync 4. Youll never get traffic or weather to work either. Those are all connected features through the TCU in sync 4. There is no Travel link option in programming for sync 4.

 

[Stone17]

You cant pay for the connected nav. It is not required when putting Sync 4 in Sync 3 vehicles.

THe gateway modules are 100% different in sync 4 native vehicles. The Sync 4 APIM receives telematics via ethernet. There is no vin stored in any APIM. Vin is absorbed once its connected. You will never ever be able to update the sync 4 apim. You will not receive OTAs. The updates for SYNC 4 are way different than Sync 3. APIM part numbers are not really important. It only matters in native SYnc 4 vehicles. otherwise they are all the same outside 6 pin LVDS or 4pin.

Sync 4 is a great system in Native sync 4 vehicles. In non native it is a compromise. I have done Sync 4 in older F150 ad super duty and as long as you go in knowing what to expect then it can be good. I require a waiver of things to be acknowledged before ill ever ship one out. I do this so no one can say they werent aware.

The OEM Explorer Display options suck. Not sure why ford did what they did and the 25 eplorer is not sync 4 it is Google OS now and the APIM control sync and cluster.

I hope they get you sorted out but I dont think it will be much of an option for them. I could probably make some of it work but there will still be other issues. Even with me doing it there is about a 80% functionality versus native sync 4. Youll never get traffic or weather to work either. Those are all connected features through the TCU in sync 4. There is no Travel link option in programming for sync 4.

Can you help with my system?

I pulled the battery cable this morning. Now I can talk with the APIM.

I just want the following information to work.

Ford Pass not working
Sirius XM not working
Rear Camera not work
Radio Button not work

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Can you go to the about sync screen and post what version its on. Did they send you a harness with it or did they tell you to depin wires form the factory connector

 

[Stone17]

Well I’ll say it’s cool for someone to be the guinea pig on this, I know a lot of people were asking on the FB groups. Interesting to see all the problems, I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be any. Wondering if those will be ironed out, some like the Nav seem to be set in stone. How does CarPlay work and the Apple Nav?

Another con to app to the list. Changing the Time crash the system. Pull the battery cable to reboot the system.

 

[Stone17]

I added an 1.25" space on the screen bracket. Look much better.

 

[Stone17]

Update coming today. I order an F-150 APIM and programmed to my ST. Package is at the house. Just waiting to get off work.

The original APIM I received is from an 21 Edge.

 

[Stone17]

Update. System is work. Jesse sent a new APIM with Nav and programmed the unit.

All the function are now working.

 

[powerboatr]

Update. System is work. Jesse sent a new APIM with Nav and programmed the unit.

All the function are now working.

Jessie is a great great help to us at the f150 forum
Great to know yall got worked out
That was a chunk of change you invested for it to go wonky

 

[Stone17]

Jessie is a great great help to us at the f150 forum
Great to know yall got worked out
That was a chunk of change you invested for it to go wonky

Plus the new APIM with Nav.

 

[powerboatr]

Plus the new APIM with Nav.

Ohhhh crap

 

[Stone17]

Ohhhh crap

You can eBay this stuff for about $1200 to $1400. Get an APIM and wiring from Jesse.
I think the old APIM could work out but I want built in Nav.

The Screen is from a 2024 Mustang GT. The Screen new from Ford is about $2500

Ebay Link