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Safety Recall 22S27 Rear Axle Bolt Fractures

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When I first brought up the stud/nut. I was referring to the picture of the black ARP 3 bolt. If you zoom in you can see the end of the stud looks to have an hex indent to tighten and it also appears you can see threads protruding above the nut.
My computer wont let me zoom in on a PNG image. The image as is it's hard to tell much. I wonder why they would choose to use a stud instead of a bolt. Seems to me like it could be a problem if it ever needs to be removed as the nut could come off and leave the stud behind.
 

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Studs and nuts are much stronger than the original bolts. The stud can be removed just like a bolt by locking two nuts together on it. A single ARP stud/nut would definitely not break, so the next thing would be the threaded hole in the aluminum cover with the same end result of loose diff. The two(4) bolt setup is obviously the best system. Ford screwed up, simple as that. Maybe they’ve implemented the real fix (4 bolts) going forward. Firestarter’s head may explode…
 

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Studs and nuts are much stronger than the original bolts. The stud can be removed just like a bolt by locking two nuts together on it. A single ARP stud/nut would definitely not break, so the next thing would be the threaded hole in the aluminum cover with the same end result of loose diff. The two(4) bolt setup is obviously the best system. Ford screwed up, simple as that. Maybe they’ve implemented the real fix (4 bolts) going forward. Firestarter’s head may explode…
It sounds like Ford has gone back to using 4 bolts. And that's good news. I'm sure Firestarter will go nuts. But he is missing more that a bolt in his butt.
 

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I just reached out again, so I'll update if I hear back.
If any one can the full specs/dimensions on the OEM bolt, APR is willing to match it up with something. Anyone?!?
 

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Just got my 2021 ST back from the dealer with the "recall" performed. This parking break thing is driving me crazy . . . really have to give it some gas to get it moving out of park and into reverse in my garage - scares the crap out of me every time. I'm kind of a novice when it comes to this stuff - but it is really bumming me out and I often find myself drifting into Ford's build and price website . . . grrrrrr. Any chance there's a real Ford fix out there that isn't this BS software engaging the parking brake?

Loved my ST . . . darn it.
 

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I park on an incline in my driveway. As such, I always set the e-brake. To start the car, I have to push on the brake and press a button which takes about a two seconds. After starting the car I push the e-brake button to release and then push the Auto Start/Stop. Takes me about a second. I certainly wouldn't decide to hate my car because of that. However, here's a solution for you!
 

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I park on an incline in my driveway. As such, I always set the e-brake. To start the car, I have to push on the brake and press a button which takes about a two seconds. After starting the car I push the e-brake button to release and then push the Auto Start/Stop. Takes me about a second. I certainly wouldn't decide to hate my car because of that. However, here's a solution for you!
Thanks . . . the issue is more that the break will not release with the e-break release and only releases with the depression of the gas which provides quite a bit more rpm than needed backing out of the garage. I get it, first world problem . . . but this wasn't the case prior to the software fix. I guess I need to see if engaging the parking break unnecessarily every time I park would allow a work around and get the e-break to disengage without gas. Don't hate the car . . . and thanks for your helpful feedback.
 

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I have never taken mine in for the recall since it is a worthless fix. I always press the e-brake button anyway. I always assumed if the recall is installed that you could still release the e-brake first before driving away. Are others seeing that you have to press the gas in gear to get the brake to release? That the button will not work before then? This would not be good.
 

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Mine was bought with the "fix" installed. The button works for me.
 

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My button seems to work if I engage it prior to parking . . . i guess that's the solution . . . dumb.
 

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The Parking Brake can always be released with the button. No issue for me.
 

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Thanks . . . the issue is more that the break will not release with the e-break release and only releases with the depression of the gas which provides quite a bit more rpm than needed backing out of the garage. I get it, first world problem . . . but this wasn't the case prior to the software fix. I guess I need to see if engaging the parking break unnecessarily every time I park would allow a work around and get the e-break to disengage without gas. Don't hate the car . . . and thanks for your helpful feedback.
Are you sure you are pressing the e-brake button to release it and not pulling up on it?
 

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Are you sure you are pressing the e-brake button to release it and not pulling up on it?
I'm pretty sure . . . but I'll double check. If that's the case, I'm an idiot. If it's not . . . going to talk to the service dept that did the work.

Thanks everyone - and sorry if I derailed the conversation here . . . lots of good info all around.
 

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I'm pretty sure . . . but I'll double check. If that's the case, I'm an idiot. If it's not . . . going to talk to the service dept that did the work.

Thanks everyone - and sorry if I derailed the conversation here . . . lots of good info all around.
Not an idiot. I brought it up because someone else here was doing that.
 

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Any news on if/when Ford will roll out a second part to the recall where they update the actual hardware on civilian vehicles?
 

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My '22 came with it. At first it seemed to need quite a bit of throttle, but I've found a quick tap of the pedal is enough to disengage the parking brake. If it takes more you might want to get it checked out.
 

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The auto parking brake came with my FRP Tune, I always use the parking brake anyway and use the button to release it. No issues here!
 

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The auto parking brake came with my FRP Tune, I always use the parking brake anyway and use the button to release it. No issues here!
I've had an automatic e-brake such as this one on my last 2 Ford products since 2015. I always use it when I park and I NEVER use the button to release the brake, ever. It's designed to release as soon as you tap the throttle. My Fusion Hybrid at work also does the same thing. No big deal! I think some people just miss the old days of cranks and levers and loud noisy mechanical things.
 

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Anyone taken delivery of a 2023 yet? Wonder if this has been fixed or I should be preemptively installing an AWR-E3301?
 

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If any one can the full specs/dimensions on the OEM bolt, APR is willing to match it up with something. Anyone?!?
If someone was to order a new bolt and send it in maybe? Would be willing to pay just can be bothered to set it up with ARP.
 



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