• Sign Up! To view all forums and unlock additional cool features

    Welcome to the #1 Explorer ST Forum and Explorer ST community dedicated to Explorer ST owners and enthusiasts. Register for an account, it's free and it's easy, so don't hesitate to join the Explorer ST Forum today!


Ford Performance Tune

CareerFiremanGuy

1000 Post Club
Firefighter/EMT
Messages
1,083
Reactions
812
Points
262
Location
USA
Vehicle
2022 Ford Explorer ST
Finally installed the Ford Performance tune today. I picked it up at Lethal and the local ASE certified mechanic installed it for $55. I was pleasantly surprised that the automatically applied parking brake "safety" feature was not included in the tune. Cheers.
Awesome to hear you're enjoying the FP tune!

When I go in for routine maintenance at the dealer I tell the person who handled my FP tune install how happy I am with it. :)
 

kDiqq

New Member
Messages
15
Reactions
11
Points
2
Location
Houston
Vehicle
2021 Stinkin Aviator
It's not just about the dealer, it's also if FORD Corporate red flags a warranty repair.

FOMOCO can call for the pcm to be removed and examined (something that has been documented by every manufacturer).

If they don't like what they find, the warranty is void and the repair is on the customer's dime. As long as people understand that, fine.

But some deniers here want to convince us that their 3rd party tunes are on the same warranty level as the FP Tune. Lies are never fine.
Ford can do all this stuff, but they won't. It's all a numbers game. They won't consume engineering resources over trying to stiff a customer a couple thousand dollar repair. It ends up being a net loss for them.

I have another example, my wife's old 2014 SRT Grand Cherokee. At 30k miles, its *third* transmission had failed. Intake, tune, exhaust. On trans 3, Chryslers FINALLY flew out someone to investigate the car. They pulled the ECU cal, saw it was tuned and... covered the replacement of the transmission entirely. There was a failed heater that caused the problem and was never replaced. It's all about cause.

Fords not gonna void your entire warranty over an engine calibration, but everyone knows that. Do you jeopardize you odds of repair when the block is windowed? Sure, but I've not heard of that happening stock or tuned. You do have loads of tuned guys having axles, diffs, and transmissions replaced under warranty here though.

I get what you're trying to say but it's not doom and gloom for a 3rd party calibration. Use discretion.
 

Nine29

Member
Law Enforcement
Messages
70
Reactions
31
Points
17
Location
Motown, MI
Vehicle
2021 ST
Finally installed the Ford Performance tune today. I picked it up at Lethal and the local ASE certified mechanic installed it for $55. I was pleasantly surprised that the automatically applied parking brake "safety" feature was not included in the tune. Cheers.
You sure the tune was actually installed? Just wondering as you're the first person I've heard of that got the FP tune and didn't have the auto parking brake modification added. Last I knew it was not a selectable feature or option.
 

UNBROKEN

4000 Post Club
Messages
4,586
Reactions
5,359
Points
352
Location
Houston, TX, USA
Ford can do all this stuff, but they won't. It's all a numbers game. They won't consume engineering resources over trying to stiff a customer a couple thousand dollar repair. It ends up being a net loss for them.

I have another example, my wife's old 2014 SRT Grand Cherokee. At 30k miles, its *third* transmission had failed. Intake, tune, exhaust. On trans 3, Chryslers FINALLY flew out someone to investigate the car. They pulled the ECU cal, saw it was tuned and... covered the replacement of the transmission entirely. There was a failed heater that caused the problem and was never replaced. It's all about cause.

Fords not gonna void your entire warranty over an engine calibration, but everyone knows that. Do you jeopardize you odds of repair when the block is windowed? Sure, but I've not heard of that happening stock or tuned. You do have loads of tuned guys having axles, diffs, and transmissions replaced under warranty here though.

I get what you're trying to say but it's not doom and gloom for a 3rd party calibration. Use discretion.
He’s an absolute moron…don’t feed the troll and hopefully it’ll go away on its own.
 

Messages
406
Reactions
235
Points
37
Location
Ontario, Canada
You sure the tune was actually installed? Just wondering as you're the first person I've heard of that got the FP tune and didn't have the auto parking brake modification added. Last I knew it was not a selectable feature or option.
Hi, yep performance tune installed, no auto parking brake. I have only driven it about 30 km so far so I have little to comment on yet. The one thing I have noticed is that it really sits down on a launch now. Cheers.
 

Messages
406
Reactions
235
Points
37
Location
Ontario, Canada
My 2020 is a four bolt and the FP tune is vin specific, just wondering if it is not covered by the recall for some reason?
 

st8

1000 Post Club
Messages
1,074
Reactions
479
Points
212
Location
Bel Air, MD, USA
My 2020 is a four bolt and the FP tune is vin specific, just wondering if it is not covered by the recall for some reason?
I thought the tune had the recall built in. Talking about the automatic ebrake when shifting into park.
 

Messages
406
Reactions
235
Points
37
Location
Ontario, Canada
One thing I have noticed with the FP tune, when in sport mode, the accelerator pedal is responsive over the whole range unlike the stock tune where it is full throttle at 3/4.
 

Messages
18
Reactions
13
Points
2
Location
Greenville, NC
Vehicle
2023 ST
Spent over an hour on the phone with my local Ford Dealership, the Ford Performance Hotline, and Ford ESP trying to find out if the FP tune would void my ESP. The short answer is nobody knows (shocking). Dealership didn't know, so I called the FP Hotline. The hotline said the dealership should know - I told them they didn't. He said to try and contact Ford ESP. I called them and got a"could possibly void the ESP" answer. I asked how I could find out FOR SURE - they then changed their answer to the FP tune WOULD void the ESP. I'm frustrated that it seems no one really knows for sure and the ESP folks defaulted to "yes it will void your ESP" when I put a little pressure on them. I'd love to have a tune, but I'm not willing to give up my 7 year, 100k mile ESP. It is what it is I guess.
 

Messages
379
Reactions
175
Points
37
Location
Socal
Spent over an hour on the phone with my local Ford Dealership, the Ford Performance Hotline, and Ford ESP trying to find out if the FP tune would void my ESP. The short answer is nobody knows (shocking). Dealership didn't know, so I called the FP Hotline. The hotline said the dealership should know - I told them they didn't. He said to try and contact Ford ESP. I called them and got a"could possibly void the ESP" answer. I asked how I could find out FOR SURE - they then changed their answer to the FP tune WOULD void the ESP. I'm frustrated that it seems no one really knows for sure and the ESP folks defaulted to "yes it will void your ESP" when I put a little pressure on them. I'd love to have a tune, but I'm not willing to give up my 7 year, 100k mile ESP. It is what it is I guess.
Its been posted plenty of times that this tune will void the ESP.

It also shortens the drivetrain warranty from 5/60 to 3/36 from the first day it was services or bought new, whichever came first

Mr Fire Guy though will block you for posting this haha
 

CareerFiremanGuy

1000 Post Club
Firefighter/EMT
Messages
1,083
Reactions
812
Points
262
Location
USA
Vehicle
2022 Ford Explorer ST
.... I'd love to have a tune, but I'm not willing to give up my 7 year, 100k mile ESP. It is what it is I guess.
Gotta do what you gotta do.

One thing is for dang sure though, with 3rd party tunes your warranty can be voided by FORD at will.

With the FP tune you retain your 3/36, which literally puts it ahead of everything else out there. Hands down.
 

CareerFiremanGuy

1000 Post Club
Firefighter/EMT
Messages
1,083
Reactions
812
Points
262
Location
USA
Vehicle
2022 Ford Explorer ST
One thing I have noticed with the FP tune, when in sport mode, the accelerator pedal is responsive over the whole range unlike the stock tune where it is full throttle at 3/4.
It was an unexpected gift that the FP tune eliminated AUTO STOP/START. But the Auto Parking Brake remains, and I can see why FORD wouldn't touch that.

But yeah, throttle response with the FP Tune can really startle you sometimes. It almost puts the ST into the 12's with no other mods, so I guess that's to be expected.
 

Messages
162
Reactions
88
Points
27
Location
Charles Town, WV, USA
Funny, Ford just warrantied my diff under 5/60 (the actual power train warranty) with a ZFG Tune and exhaust... Imagine that...
 

SmittysST

Member
Law Enforcement
Messages
130
Reactions
25
Points
17
Location
SOCAL
Vehicle
2023 FORD Explorer ST
Funny, Ford just warrantied my diff under 5/60 (the actual power train warranty) with a ZFG Tune and exhaust... Imagine that...
Where is that dealership? Noted!!! Thx!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Suprawill1

Active Member
Messages
546
Reactions
316
Points
82
Location
Maryland
Vehicle
2020 Explorer ST
It was an unexpected gift that the FP tune eliminated AUTO STOP/START. But the Auto Parking Brake remains, and I can see why FORD wouldn't touch that.

But yeah, throttle response with the FP Tune can really startle you sometimes. It almost puts the ST into the 12's with no other mods, so I guess that's to be expected.
Are you speaking of the AUTO STOP that occurs when you come to a stop at a traffic light and such?
 

kDiqq

New Member
Messages
15
Reactions
11
Points
2
Location
Houston
Vehicle
2021 Stinkin Aviator
It was an unexpected gift that the FP tune eliminated AUTO STOP/START. But the Auto Parking Brake remains, and I can see why FORD wouldn't touch that.

But yeah, throttle response with the FP Tune can really startle you sometimes. It almost puts the ST into the 12's with no other mods, so I guess that's to be expected.
The FP tune only gets you in the 13s? That's super disappointing for the cost.
 

Suprawill1

Active Member
Messages
546
Reactions
316
Points
82
Location
Maryland
Vehicle
2020 Explorer ST
The FP tune only gets you in the 13s? That's super disappointing for the cost.
Stock ST is already in the 13s. Also bear in mind how far 30hp is going to get you. That's the extent of an FP tune.
 



Top