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418 hp 3.0L Bronco Raptor is slowwwwwww ...

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My CTSV weightd 4200lbs and had 700 wheel horsepower with lots of low end torque. THAT was a performance sports car IMO. Explorer ST is GREAT in class but not a a performance car IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love my ST, but if I were looking for a performance car an Explorer would NOT have been in my wheelhouse. For a vehicle that carries a decent amount of people and stuff the performance is pretty darn good. If I wanted to go road racing again I would have made different choices. Then again I traded in a 2500HD Diesel truck for my ST :ROFLMAO:

I'll say it again, I am LOVING my ST!
 

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What did I just read? Lol
My guess is you just read some posts. I could be wrong.

But I'm not. heh heh
 

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My CTSV weightd 4200lbs and had 700 wheel horsepower with lots of low end torque. THAT was a performance sports car IMO. Explorer ST is GREAT in class but not a a performance car IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love my ST, but if I were looking for a performance car an Explorer would NOT have been in my wheelhouse. For a vehicle that carries a decent amount of people and stuff the performance is pretty darn good. If I wanted to go road racing again I would have made different choices. Then again I traded in a 2500HD Diesel truck for my ST :ROFLMAO:

I'll say it again, I am LOVING my ST!
The CTSV is a performance vehicle for ITS class. The ST is a performance vehicle for ITS class.

I'd say that whether I loved the ST or not.

 

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I guess the term performance is subjective


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My guess is you just read some posts. I could be wrong.

But I'm not. heh heh
Lol I meant more along the lines of did I really read someone say the ST is slow. Not implying the ST is some crazy fast vehicle but I have not heard anyone say the ST is “slow”.
 

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Lol I meant more along the lines of did I really read someone say the ST is slow. Not implying the ST is some crazy fast vehicle but I have not heard anyone say the ST is “slow”.
While I admit it’s subjective…a high 13 second car is slow. IMHO it’s a pig in stock form. It’s peppy and handles very well with some basics mods…and I like mine. But fast it’s not.
 

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I know this is an old thread, but, I think that perspective is in order. I've not driven the new Bronco, once owned a Bronco II. It was a sporty little truck. I used to have a blast out on dirt roads with that little car. But, that being said, it's hard to compare one vehicle of one class to a vehicle of another.

I used to be the tire guy/jack man on a USAR team. Got into a discussion with some fans. They were dissapointed our cars were slower on their local track than the late models they watched every weekend. Our cars had over 150 HP more than their late models. We were heavier, we had a narrower tire. They were making lap times a second faster on a 3/8 mile track. Put them on a 3/4 mile sweeping oval, we'd waste them. It's not that our cars were slow, it's that our cars were designed for bigger tracks. We put on one Hell of a race, they all agreed. Our pole time was just slower than they anticipated.

The point is, some vehicles are designed to be plain old passenger cars. Then there are the performance vehicles. To be a performance vehicle, they have to pick an area they're going to excel at and design the vehicle to be the best at that. The Bronco is not designed to be a street racer. Sure, they gave it power, and probably most of it's owners will NEVER take it off road. But, that's what the vehicle was designed for. From what I've seen, they would make an Explorer look pathetic crawling rocks.
 

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Yeah, my old, slow 6k lb Raptor will run 12.5@108 and grocery getter/grandkid hauler 4k lb ExplorerST will step out to 11.99@114. Yeah, but they're dirt slow compared to any of my bikes.

Oh, and the old Bronco2 cant compare to a new Bronco Raptor. A tune is all it takes to turn it into a serious street/road contender where the old crap…, is just old crap.
 

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We have one of these at work today..

Tore it down to do a full color-match..
 

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