Ford Performance Tune

bluesnake01 · Nov 8, 2022

From my understanding, once you are past the 3/36 and into ext warranty and have a failure that can be traced to the tune, they could deny the warranty. FP does not provide any coverage after 3/36. This has been the same with previous FP tunes on different vehicles.

However, just like any other tune, they CANNOT deny your warranty that is NOT tune relatable.

If out of warranty, I would go directly with ZFG as not only will you get the fastest/most out if it, more than likely itll also be easier on the transmission due to the tranny tune and powerband.

One major advantage the FP tune has however, is that it is 100% CARB legal. Here in California, thats a big plus for those that want a lil more power and cannot get another tune

KegsBdry · Nov 8, 2022

bluesnake01 said:

From my understanding, once you are past the 3/36 and into ext warranty and have a failure that can be traced to the tune, they could deny the warranty. FP does not provide any coverage after 3/36. This has been the same with previous FP tunes on different vehicles.

However, just like any other tune, they CANNOT deny your warranty that is NOT tune relatable.

If out of warranty, I would go directly with ZFG as not only will you get the fastest/most out if it, more than likely itll also be easier on the transmission due to the tranny tune and powerband.

One major advantage the FP tune has however, is that it is 100% CARB legal. Here in California, thats a big plus for those that want a lil more power and cannot get another tune

So in my case, I should do ZFG and be done with it!?

Dale5403 · Nov 8, 2022

UNBROKEN said:

I think CFM should block every one on this forum. Then he would have nothing to whine about because he would not see any posts. Never have I seen a person on a web forum brag about blocking people except for him.

AtlasBlue2022 · Nov 8, 2022

bluesnake01 said:

From my understanding, once you are past the 3/36 and into ext warranty and have a failure that can be traced to the tune, they could deny the warranty. FP does not provide any coverage after 3/36. This has been the same with previous FP tunes on different vehicles.

However, just like any other tune, they CANNOT deny your warranty that is NOT tune relatable.

If out of warranty, I would go directly with ZFG as not only will you get the fastest/most out if it, more than likely itll also be easier on the transmission due to the tranny tune and powerband.

One major advantage the FP tune has however, is that it is 100% CARB legal. Here in California, thats a big plus for those that want a lil more power and cannot get another tune

Just a side note though, it’s only CARB legal through 2021 models. 22’s & 23’s aren’t as of now, but hopefully they will be soon.

dolsen · Nov 9, 2022

RandomPilot said:

Which dealer are you using out there? I am in Louisville, but shop exclusively Pinnacle Ford

CareerFiremanGuy · Nov 9, 2022

Bosh said:

100% absolutely sure!

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KegsBdry said:

RandomPilot said:

Crazy installation price disparity between one dealer and another. Should all be the exact same price wherever you go ...

bluesnake01 · Nov 9, 2022

KegsBdry said:

ZFG gives you the best bang for the money if you're out of the original 3/36 and even then, it can be debatable.

But its your SUV, your money.

CareerFiremanGuy · Nov 10, 2022

The FP tune is deserving of way more attention than it's getting.

My previous comment should not be the last post on this thread about it, so I'm posting again.

We need more intelligent common sense feedback on this tune so people can make a rational informed decision on it.

Anyone?

RandomPilot · Nov 10, 2022

dolsen said:

So I talked to them today about scheduling it and they admitted they had no clue what mod I was talking about. Have to get back to me with another quote because the guy in parts has zero clue that FP tune I'm talking about. Argued with me that no such part exists

dolsen · Nov 10, 2022

RandomPilot said:

You spoke with the service manager at Pinnacle? I only work with their sales since I am in Louisville, but they're one of the best, most aggressively priced dealers I have found. When I bought my 2020 ST from them, it was 9k off MSRP, no negotiations or anything, that was just the price as it sat on the showroom floor. Granted August 2020 was a much different car market than today lol.

They let me buy my 22 F150 Lariat off the lot using x-plan though. This was at the beginning of Sept, arguably the peak of all of these car shenanigans

Blown F-150 · Nov 10, 2022

Spins4 said:

I was bored, so I went to this site to play with the numbers you posted.
https://www.ajdesigner.com/fl_horsepower_elapsed_time/horsepower_elapsed_time.php

Assumptions of 5000lbs curb weight with Driver and DA is not definable

ET 13.44 = 407.1hp
ET 12.90 = 460.4hp

So seems like FP is underestimating the HP, but obviously this is a pretty generic way of calculating the HP. We all know the impact of DA and other factors.

CareerFiremanGuy · Nov 10, 2022

Good to see we have two intelligent people keeping the discussion alive.

Thanks RandomPilot and dolsen!

TMac · Nov 10, 2022

Sorry @Blown F-150- Looks like you have been added to the "ignore" list as well!

st8 · Nov 10, 2022

Blown F-150 said:

Interesting. Thanks for that info. Every day I come to this thread in hopes something helps me decide what to do lol.

I Bleed Ford Blue · Nov 10, 2022

From my experience, HP can overwrite a ford performance tune. I put a stage 2 power pack on my 17 mustang GT, and after I installed the long tube headers, I had to take to a local shop to get the CEL turned off. HP tuning software was the only one that could access the FP tune to modify for the header install.

Also, if you buy the FP tune, download the file from ford yourself and give a copy to the tech at the dealer on a thumb drive. DO NOT let them download the file. Several people in the mustang world let the dealer download the file and they got screwed by the tech. They either kept the file themselves, and in one instance I heard of the tech deleted the file from the dealer laptop after the install and now there is no way to go back to stock.

st8 · Nov 10, 2022

Glad I’m not the only one who thought of that possible situation. Would be very slimy of a dealer but I could see it happening.

Is there a way to check to see after the fact if it’s actually installed?

I Bleed Ford Blue · Nov 10, 2022

I have an older version of the pro cal device and on mine you need the pro-cal software installed on a laptop and then plug the device into the laptop and the vehicle and you could then see if the tune was actually installed.

Blown F-150 · Nov 10, 2022

TMac said:

Bahahaha, can’t say I’m surprised. That echo chamber must be getting smaller for him

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18Ventura · Nov 10, 2022

st8 said:

Yes. You can see the FP tune on the ProCal tool, which should be kept with the vehicle.

However, if the ProCal software resides on the installer's computer (rather than your own) I don't know that you would be able to check for firmware updates, etc.

st8 · Nov 10, 2022

18Ventura said:

Oh okay thanks. As long as there is a way to officially check. I mean it’s sad that I even consider that being an issue but anyway.

Can’t you install the software after the fact? I mean what happens once that warranty is up. I’d want everything in my possession certainly by then. I mean I think everything should even from the beginning. I just need the dealer to hit “install” to get the warranty.

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