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Ford Performance Tune

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A lot of people have WAY too much faith in the Guarantee Fairy..... Skip to 1:31 for the short and sweet version

Still not impressed with the FP Tune considering the ridiculous price point and the extreme limitations of the ProCal4/uCal/MyCalibrator tuning device.
 

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It doesn’t “technically” maintain your warranty, it does maintain your warranty. Any reason a dealer feels the tune contributed to something going wrong, that’s when the additional warranty from FP tune comes into play.

I highly doubt anyone would have issues with either tune. It’s all personal preference. For me, the explorer 6th isn’t bulletproof. While I am nearly fully confident a Zfg wouldn’t do anything to my ST, I’m afraid fords sometimes questionable designs and build quality can cause an issue. For that, I feel I’d have a lot less battles fighting something with the dealer if I was running a ford built tune. I would hope at least. That comes with some mental comfort.

Again, no one is buying the FP tune for a quick car and to run special numbers. We knows it’s not Zfg. Like the current users of the tune said, it makes a fun car more fun. Like I know I’m not gonna throw down head turning numbers with the FP tune.

Thanks for all the input from users. I remain torn on what to do but I’m glad you guys are loving it!
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Only issue I can see with the FP warranty, if there's an issue with the powertrain past the 36k warranty BUT in between the powertrain warranty, Ford will 100% know you had/have the FP tune and more than likely deny it for bogus reason.

I have seen a post of someone going thru an issue with the 5.0 with the FP tune, was getting the infamous low compression cyl. on the Coyote's. Ford was going back and forth with FP on who's fault it was, took months before it got settled.
 

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Only issue I can see with the FP warranty, if there's an issue with the powertrain past the 36k warranty BUT in between the powertrain warranty, Ford will 100% know you had/have the FP tune and more than likely deny it for bogus reason.

I have seen a post of someone going thru an issue with the 5.0 with the FP tune, was getting the infamous low compression cyl. on the Coyote's. Ford was going back and forth with FP on who's fault it was, took months before it got settled.
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Yeah for sure. What happens after that is debatable and who knows. I would think though, my fight to get something covered would be less of an issue with a FP tune vs a true aftermarket tune. I can’t say for sure though and it’s still a gamble.
 

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twin001 said:
A lot of people have WAY too much faith in the Guarantee Fairy..... Skip to 1:31 for the short and sweet version

Still not impressed with the FP Tune considering the ridiculous price point and the extreme limitations of the ProCal4/uCal/MyCalibrator tuning device.
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Then don't buy it and move on in life.
 

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Loaded the FP tune today but unfortunately I had filled up day before with 87.......regardless still a significant improvement in acceleration out of the hole, entering onto Freeway big difference, especially shifting. Apparently the calibration to cover spark across all octanes plus shift points. You just notice the biggest improvement with Premium. Waiting to burn through this tank and load up with Chevron 94, might need Line of Credit to pay for tank of Premium right now!
 

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Loaded the FP tune today but unfortunately I had filled up day before with 87.......regardless still a significant improvement in acceleration out of the hole, entering onto Freeway big difference, especially shifting. Apparently the calibration to cover spark across all octanes plus shift points. You just notice the biggest improvement with Premium. Waiting to burn through this tank and load up with Chevron 94, might need Line of Credit to pay for tank of Premium right now!
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Good to hear! It’s interesting about the 87 octane part. The FP team swore I should only run premium. Which very well may be true. But I’m guess the tune and computer still has the ability to dial things back. Keep us updated once you run through some premium.
 

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Good to hear! It’s interesting about the 87 octane part. The FP team swore I should only run premium. Which very well may be true. But I’m guess the tune and computer still has the ability to dial things back. Keep us updated once you run through some premium.
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I literally said exactly that and everyone said I was nuts. lol
 

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I literally said exactly that and everyone said I was nuts. lol
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Lol I know but this is what I was going off of. Ignore my rant about the warranty in the second picture. I understand now. But read what the representative said about the octane.
 

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It would be nice for someone to log with an SCT device or a HPT device with the FP tune loaded up and running 87. You would know pretty quick. I totally get that not many have multiple tuners.


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It would be nice for someone to log with an SCT device or a HPT device with the FP tune loaded up and running 87. You would know pretty quick. I totally get that not many have multiple tuners.


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Lol I know but this is what I was going off of. Ignore my rant about the warranty in the second picture. I understand now. But read what the representative said about the octane.
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I have access to some of the Engineers, that's how I got my info so I will dig deeper into this and find what's really accurate.
 

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Forgive me if this was already mentioned in this thread but did anyone else notice after loading the new FP calibration it also included the software that auto activates the Parking Brake at every "P" selection?........this is driving me nuts after 1 day. You dont need a parking brake on a flat surface only inclines.
 

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I have access to some of the Engineers, that's how I got my info so I will dig deeper into this and find what's really accurate.
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Hopefully it’s some of the ones remaining after last weeks lay offs. Genuinely curious what you find though.

If anyone happens to be in the Calgary area, I can grab a read of the file and see if it’s protected or not. Or, data log and get the broader group some info.


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I have access to some of the Engineers, that's how I got my info so I will dig deeper into this and find what's really accurate.
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yeah definitely keep us updated! Very well could just be FP team being very conservative and playing it very safe by recommending only premium

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Forgive me if this was already mentioned in this thread but did anyone else notice after loading the new FP calibration it also included the software that auto activates the Parking Brake at every "P" selection?........this is driving me nuts after 1 day. You dont need a parking brake on a flat surface only inclines.
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Yeah someone else mentioned it somewhere. It’s the bolt recall. I will say, you get use to it very quickly. At least I did. You don’t need to hit the button to release. Just ease on the gas and it will auto release.
 

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Sgt1411 said:
Forgive me if this was already mentioned in this thread but did anyone else notice after loading the new FP calibration it also included the software that auto activates the Parking Brake at every "P" selection?........this is driving me nuts after 1 day. You dont need a parking brake on a flat surface only inclines.
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I wonder if this also affects the 2020 models
 

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I wonder if this also affects the 2020 models
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If your dealer flashed the TSB then yes. Despite being applicable to certain model years (mid/late 21, 2022) you are relying on the service dept to know if your ST needs it or not. If you have a 2020 then make sure you tell your SA that you don't need it.
 

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If your dealer flashed the TSB then yes. Despite being applicable to certain model years (mid/late 21, 2022) you are relying on the service dept to know if your ST needs it or not. If you have a 2020 then make sure you tell your SA that you don't need it.
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I don’t want to derail this thread but this is the document from ford. It reads as ALL explorers, 2020-2022 are affected. Unclear why it ever read like this. But that would mean all explorers would get this updated firmware.
 

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st8 said:
I don’t want to derail this thread but this is the document from ford. It reads as ALL explorers, 2020-2022 are affected. Unclear why it ever read like this. But that would mean all explorers would get this updated firmware.
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Actually, it only affects the build dates listed, not all.
 

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Actually, it only affects the build dates listed, not all.
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True but look at the dates. It still includes 2020 st from Oct 2018 to sept 2020. Again, it doesn’t make any sense because all 2020s have 4 bolts. Anyway, i guess it doesn’t matter.

I’m still waiting for a damn dealer to confirm the ability to install before buying! Want to get in on this lethal performance deal.
 

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twin001 said:
If your dealer flashed the TSB then yes. Despite being applicable to certain model years (mid/late 21, 2022) you are relying on the service dept to know if your ST needs it or not. If you have a 2020 then make sure you tell your SA that you don't need it.
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It should be based on serial number. If yours doesn’t pop up when they check, there really is no reason for them to install it it as they won’t get paid.


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