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Ford Performance Tune
- Thread starter ZookaRoo
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St8, I went with the auto octane tune. Told Adam what my goals were which required slightly higher than the quoted WHP of 50. Adam said not a problem. At some point I'll find my way to a 4 wheel dyno to see how close we got. My reasoning for the auto octane was the inconsistency of 92-93 oct. and the confiscatory prices charged in certain markets. Reading this thread and with Tmac's input I've learned the ST's base platform is more forgiving than I knew on adjusting for octane levels. If I had to do it all over again I most likely would take the same path. As I told Adam, I don't race it, and I won't get in a pissing contest over draggy time slips. I just went with the tune I felt most comfortable with and wouldn't shell the transmission with some spirited driving.
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Exactly. It's not 3/36 from when you had the FP tune installed, it's from the original date the ST was sold and titled for the first time. If you have a 2020 that was first sold in 19 or you already have 36K or more miles on it then the FP warranty is null and void anyway. At that point just buy a ZFG tune, for roughly 1K you can get triple the HP of the FP tune.
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It could be cut down to ~4 pages if all the irrelevant and irrational comments were deleted. The radically misinformed are ruining it, no surprise. It's the internet. Lol
Alternatively. It's not just about New vs. Older out of warranty ST's. Even if someone had an older ST, the FP tune is the manufacturer's tune and will appeal to people who don't trust 3rd party software. And if something were to happen to an ST with an out of warranty FP tune, the chance of a dealer working with them is vastly greater.
It's honorable you think for yourself and don't let forum members lead you around on a short leash. Going with a modest tune is radically appealing to many people. Otherwise, would FORD have wasted their time and money developing one? Nope.
But the point needs to be made: OEM vs 3rd party tune debates have been going on for decades. You have Group A, who has brand loyalty and couldn't care less how much HP a 3rd party tune makes. Then you have Group B, who wants max HP at all costs and is willing to get it from anyone, anywhere. And there you go ...
Alternatively. It's not just about New vs. Older out of warranty ST's. Even if someone had an older ST, the FP tune is the manufacturer's tune and will appeal to people who don't trust 3rd party software. And if something were to happen to an ST with an out of warranty FP tune, the chance of a dealer working with them is vastly greater.
It's honorable you think for yourself and don't let forum members lead you around on a short leash. Going with a modest tune is radically appealing to many people. Otherwise, would FORD have wasted their time and money developing one? Nope.
But the point needs to be made: OEM vs 3rd party tune debates have been going on for decades. You have Group A, who has brand loyalty and couldn't care less how much HP a 3rd party tune makes. Then you have Group B, who wants max HP at all costs and is willing to get it from anyone, anywhere. And there you go ...
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Got a quote from a ASE certified shop, initially $250. I responded back and said if I prep the tune, would that help. Told me $150. That’s their minimum fee to charge for service. I’m content with that. I said I could do the whole prep thing. Instructions seem pretty straightforward. So did you just backup and load the FP tune onto the device so all the dealer had to do was press program?
I am guessing it shouldn’t matter warranty wise if I prep the tune? As long as the final job is installed by dealer/certified tech.
I am guessing it shouldn’t matter warranty wise if I prep the tune? As long as the final job is installed by dealer/certified tech.
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- Elkhorn, WI, USA
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- 2015 GTR, 2022 Explorer ST (on order)
That’s exactly what I did. I brought my laptop with the ProCal program already installed on the laptop and the ProCal 4 ‘tool’ updates complete with the stock calibration saved. I had mine done at the dealership for $125. The tech thanked me for bringing my laptop and completing the ‘pre- work’.
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Confirmed the FP tune is designed to handle ALL octanes. Performance of the tune calibrations are modulated by the octane. The engineers I spoke to were surprised & confused by the information about the risk of holes in pistons. Installing it yourself does not void any warranty. If an issue occurred they would need to show actual cause that the installation of the tune was incorrect in some way and directly related to the issue.
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Great info thanks! Really helpful to hear. I would say I hope they fix the wording but I doubt they will. It honestly makes sense that they would make it like an auto octane tune to account for people making mistakes and using 87 octane for example.
I think just the whole part of installing it yourself vs having a dealer/ASE do it is the latter you maintain the 3 year/36k warranty that comes with the tune. If you do it yourself, you forgo that “extra warranty”. But yeah like all tune, they have to specifically prove it causes issues. That’s how I read it and have been told at least.
Thanks again for that info though.
I think just the whole part of installing it yourself vs having a dealer/ASE do it is the latter you maintain the 3 year/36k warranty that comes with the tune. If you do it yourself, you forgo that “extra warranty”. But yeah like all tune, they have to specifically prove it causes issues. That’s how I read it and have been told at least.
Thanks again for that info though.
For today's entertainment value, I had spoken with my service rep at local dealer (where my steed has been sitting for 116 days and counting waiting on a rear axle cover due to broken bolt) about installing the Ford Performance Tune. I get it's not panacea HP wise and I'm leering of lurking outside my extended warranty hence no high end tune (for now) ... that and I wanna check out the difference in shift points and MPG. I can get it for 599 online and take it to them but they wanna bilk me for 1. retail $899 plus (get this) an entire DAY of labor. Total 1500 ish plus tax. They had pawned me off on the accessories department where the 20 something year old girl made such absurd remarks as “I like to charge a full day labor just to be safe” and “ unfortunately we can’t control the computer”. Uh, ok.
Yeah I had a dealer claim they needed my vehicle all day as well. Kinda lost interest after that point especially since they were 45 min away. Absolutely no reason you need my car to sit there for 8 hrs for you to do a 30 min tune. Oh, and they wanted me to come prep’d with the tuner ready to go.
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