yeah I hear ya, but lets me real here - most "high end" tools and products are made in the very same factory as the cheaper alternatives (i.e. The same company that makes Milwaukee tools makes Walmarts Hart line). People like yourself feel spending a lot of money on something means quality, and hey, no shade coming your way, more power to you. Definitely not putting you down for it but these are are one piece of billet aluminum, hardened studs with a nice snug fit around hub. Bora spacers are...one piece of billet aluminum, hardened studs with a nice snug fit around hub for 3 x the price. ♂️