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Lol most people running this don’t care about exact times. The tune feels noticeably quicker than stock. Aka more fun. That’s all that matters. Why is that so hard to understand? Out of the numerous reviews of this tune, between this forum and Fb, I’ve only come across one person who was unhappy and their impressions seemed kinda sketchy. Everyone has unanimously been very happy with it from what I have gathered.
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My point is there are much better tunes for similar $$ that add more than power and improve the jerky tranny shifts

As I stated, its a plus for those retaining the original 36 month warranty, but for those wanting a faster vehicle outside of that warranty, IMO, its best spent elsewhere on a real tune that does more than just add power. I mean you buy a tune to make the vehicle faster. not just for brags lol
 

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Lol most people running this don’t care about exact times. The tune feels noticeably quicker than stock. Aka more fun. That’s all that matters. Why is that so hard to understand? Out of the numerous reviews of this tune, between this forum and Fb, I’ve only come across one person who was unhappy and their impressions seemed kinda sketchy. Everyone has unanimously been very happy with it from what I have gathered.
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I don’t understand much of the beefing about the FP tune here.

I’m ZFG tuned. For my objectives it was the clear choice. However I think you clearly capture the big upside to the FP tune based on different objectives. We are all different, thank god, and it is always good to have more choices in life rather than less!


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bluesnake01 said:
My point is there are much better tunes for similar $$ that add more than power and improve the jerky tranny shifts

As I stated, its a plus for those retaining the original 36 month warranty, but for those wanting a faster vehicle outside of that warranty, IMO, its best spent elsewhere on a real tune that does more than just add power. I mean you buy a tune to make the vehicle faster. not just for brags lol
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Oh yeah 100%. It’s all about the warranty. And honestly as someone who plans to keep their ST for a long time, I’m sure my Powertrain will appreciate the dialed back power relative to a beefier tune.

I went with FP for warranty and for a little extra fun. Win win. Imo.

But I still love watching the growth of aftermarket tunes. Love what Zfg is doing.
 

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I don’t understand much of the beefing about the FP tune here.

I’m ZFG tuned. For my objectives it was the clear choice. However I think you clearly capture the big upside to the FP tune based on different objectives. We are all different, thank god, and it is always good to have more choices in life rather than less!


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Exactly! We all know the FP is inferior in every way to any aftermarket besides the warranty part. But that’s okay. Just glad they all exist.
 

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Oh yeah 100%. It’s all about the warranty. And honestly as someone who plans to keep their ST for a long time, I’m sure my Powertrain will appreciate the dialed back power relative to a beefier tune.

I went with FP for warranty and for a little extra fun. Win win. Imo.

But I still love watching the growth of aftermarket tunes. Love what Zfg is doing.
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The only big issue with the ST's is the transmission, even in stock form. Having a tune making ton more power with a better transmission tune and shifts is better for the drivetrain vs slight power or stock with no transmission updates.

Not saying it will be an issue with the FR tune but havent read much about it other than its closer to the BRaptor's tranny tune.
 

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The only big issue with the ST's is the transmission, even in stock form. Having a tune making ton more power with a better transmission tune and shifts is better for the drivetrain vs slight power or stock with no transmission updates.

Not saying it will be an issue with the FR tune but havent read much about it other than its closer to the BRaptor's tranny tune.
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The transmission “tune” in the Ford performance tune does nothing. That was established a long time ago. Best case you get whatever the current transmission strategy is and it does a KAM reset when you load it to so it resets all of the adaptives. That’s it. Nothing else is done. Anybody saying anything else or guessing at anything else is just not speaking facts.
 

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The transmission “tune” in the Ford performance tune does nothing. That was established a long time ago. Best case you get whatever the current transmission strategy is and it does a KAM reset when you load it to so it resets all of the adaptives. That’s it. Nothing else is done. Anybody saying anything else or guessing at anything else is just not speaking facts.
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I go faster then before. I have more fun then before. That’s all that matters and I still have my warranty lol
 

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I go faster then before. I have more fun then before. That’s all that matters and I still have my warranty lol
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Wasn’t replying to you at all. Was replying to the guy that said it’s “closer to the BRaptor”
The only things it’s close to is stock…because that’s what it is.
 

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Wasn’t replying to you at all. Was replying to the guy that said it’s “closer to the BRaptor”
The only things it’s close to is stock…because that’s what it is.
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Are you really implying there’s nothing different?
 

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Wasn’t replying to you at all. Was replying to the guy that said it’s “closer to the BRaptor”
The only things it’s close to is stock…because that’s what it is.
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Never said it was......
 

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Are you really implying there’s nothing different?
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I’m not implying anything…I’ve said outright there is NO special trans tune in the FP tune. It’s been dissected and verified by more than one well known tuner. You get the latest standard Ford strategy and a KAM reset like you get any time you load a new tune. That’s it…period.
 

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There were a bunch of people on the Gen 3 Raptor forums getting ready to blow their load about a rumor there would be a FP tune released. I directed them to this thread for entertainment purposes and to see the massive performance increase they'd expect.

The Raptors also have an equivalent to ZFG - big power gains, actual trans tuning, and zero warranty issues.
 

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There were a bunch of people on the Gen 3 Raptor forums getting ready to blow their load about a rumor there would be a FP tune released. I directed them to this thread for entertainment purposes and to see the massive performance increase they'd expect.

The Raptors also have an equivalent to ZFG - big power gains, actual trans tuning, and zero warranty issues.
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I do believe ZFG has the 3.5 record as well. Is he the Raptor guy? lol
 

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There were a bunch of people on the Gen 3 Raptor forums getting ready to blow their load about a rumor there would be a FP tune released. I directed them to this thread for entertainment purposes and to see the massive performance increase they'd expect.

The Raptors also have an equivalent to ZFG - big power gains, actual trans tuning, and zero warranty issues.
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None of the realistic folks here are claiming massive gains lol let’s keep it in perspective for the majority of us
 

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I do believe ZFG has the 3.5 record as well. Is he the Raptor guy? lol
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No, it's Goosetuned. He uses the Cobb Accessport and creates his own email tunes for it instead of their OTS maps. I didn't know ZFG tuned the 21+ F150s until now; I only thought he did 20 and older. Haven't seen him post on those Raptor forums; maybe he's on the regular F150 forums. I have a 2023 so I'm SOL because of some new security protocol Ford added to the computer but I guess I'll have to hit him up once the 23s can get tuned.

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None of the realistic folks here are claiming massive gains lol let’s keep it in perspective for the majority of us
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True. People over there were expecting the same numbers you get from ZFG (Goosetuned for them).
 

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Regarding the recent revision for the FP tune. Here’s the response from FP Parts Tech Line.

“ Yes, you need to reflash the vehicle or it will not be updated. If you are not experienced with the process it would be best to take it back to the tech (if possible) that originally installed it.
The warranty will still apply if you do the update.”

I had to clarify with him, like I still want to keep the warranty. That’s why I’m here and bought this tune. Again,

“ As per my previous email - The warranty will still apply if you do the update.”

So maybe I’ll try updating it this weekend. I’m still skeptical but I have him confirming twice the warranty will remain even if I do the update.
 

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Regarding the recent revision for the FP tune. Here’s the response from FP Parts Tech Line.

“ Yes, you need to reflash the vehicle or it will not be updated. If you are not experienced with the process it would be best to take it back to the tech (if possible) that originally installed it.
The warranty will still apply if you do the update.”

I had to clarify with him, like I still want to keep the warranty. That’s why I’m here and bought this tune. Again,

“ As per my previous email - The warranty will still apply if you do the update.”

So maybe I’ll try updating it this weekend. I’m still skeptical but I have him confirming twice the warranty will remain even if I do the update.
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I would hang onto that email. It should give proof if any thing goes wrong for you. Good luck.
 

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I missed this. When was the revision and what’s it do?
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Good question. I don’t really know other than it adds the auto start stop memory feature meaning the car will remember and keep whatever setting you set it to.
 

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st8 said:
Good question. I don’t really know other than it adds the auto start stop memory feature meaning the car will remember and keep whatever setting you set it to.
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so how does one even get the revision? I plugged the ProCal into my computer, ran the Update button which sends the calibration, then it just kinda does nothing. The interface doesn’t say anything about a new version or anything that would tell me that a revision is on the ProCal.

I’m pretty miffed with the 1998 quality of this front end (as someone who works in UI/UX and data systems)
 

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