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BEWARE: Driveshaft kaboom from emergency auto-brake

Cruising68

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#61
Damn what did that cost??
I have a 22 and also have one bolt rear sub...
$1200. Still need to find the bolt. I've spent quite a bit of cash on upgrades so in the grand scheme of things it was just more. May not make a difference but I've got mine tuned already with other upgrades in the near future and I just didn't feel like taking any chances especially potentially being out of warranty.
 

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My 2022 has one bolt. I plan to purchase the Stiffy as it seems to be the only remedy without completely replacing the subframe.
 

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There is only one point I'm trying to make here. Until I see vehicles released say after the first quarter of 21 show up with the more robust sub-frames installed I'm going to guess that Ford thinks the 1/3 bolt setup is good enough and has made it a running change.

I don't see Ford stepping up to the plate and making an across-the-board recall on this. If the later models are out there with the better unit we have something to go on. I would like to be wrong on that. I, along with just about anyone else with one of these wimpy setups would like to have this happen but I don't see it. Personally I feel cheated.

Does anyone out there with a late build date 21 have the 2/4 setup as manufactured? I haven't seen anyone claim to have this.
mine was built in may this year and still has the 1 bolt set up. WTF
 

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2022 here. Built in November 22. Mine has 2 bolts.
 

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Just purchased an ST. Build date 9/23. 1/3 bolt subframe. Asking the dealership to remedy with a 2/4 bolt subframe via a misbuild claim with Ford but not optimistic. This electronic parking brake “fix” for this is one of the most dishonest attempts to pretend to fix a true structural problem that I’ve seen. They are just comparing the analyzed potential cost of repairs and lawsuits vs the cost of installing or recalling tens/hundreds of thousands of vehicles and they’re choosing their wallet over customer safety and proper engineering specs… on a performance vehicle, no less.
 

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I have a 2020 with the 2 bolt front washer etc. total coincidence on the year that I bought. Does a diff brace make any sense for me? Seems pretty redundant. But for $160 I wouldn’t mind a little more peace of mind.
 

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It won't hurt any thing. But not sure if it really helps in your case. Your choice I guess.
 

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I have a 2020 with the 2 bolt front washer etc. total coincidence on the year that I bought. Does a diff brace make any sense for me? Seems pretty redundant. But for $160 I wouldn’t mind a little more peace of mind.
Well, you will want a more substantial brace than the $160 will get you. the 2/4 bolt subframes are not part of the recall and at least anecdotally, have not heard of these mounts/bolts failing. When I removed the two rear bolts on my 2/4 bolt last year, there was no sign of bent bolts like you see with the 1/3 bolt subframe. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
 

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