Stock CAI

Suprawill1 · Jul 16, 2024

Is the stock CAI that restrictive? I was looking at the S&B but needed to justify the cost/advantage.
At this point, visually the DPs are the only mod giveaway.
Maybe the OEM's not so much restrictive in stock form but with the mods I have made, maybe a good idea?
Thanks for your thoughts!

93DMS Tune
CVFab IC
CVFab DPs
CRP Stage 5 Turbos
Revised 93DMS
E30 Specific Tune

2020FordRaptor · Jul 16, 2024

Suprawill1 said:

The stock exhaust nor the intake are restrictive for stock turbos and you wouldn’t see any gains with that. If you’re upgrading turbos then you might see some worthwhile gains. It probably doesn’t hurt, and Adam could probably dial in the intake more with the upgraded turbos. I would do it.

2020FordRaptor · Jul 16, 2024

Also, you’re going to want to get a built transmission because Adam probably is going to limit torque so that you won’t destroy your transmission, making these little mods irrelevant.

Suprawill1 · Jul 16, 2024

2020FordRaptor said:

Thanks for the reply! I concur with your assessment with the stock turbo scenario.

At this point I'm not equipped to upgrade the tranny. I had looked into either a Level 42 build or a 10R80 swap. Just not in the play kitty yet.

UNBROKEN · Jul 16, 2024

Suprawill1 said:

Be wary of anyone quoting you a 10R80 swap…there’s none on the street actually working yet. And if you want the 60 built you want RSA out of Florida.

2020FordRaptor · Jul 16, 2024

Suprawill1 said:

RSA is the best place to get your tranny done. Honestly, I’d just save up the $4k to get the tranny built before any more mods happen. I never know why people want to do the 10r80 swap when the 10r60 can be built to handle more then enough.

Suprawill1 · Jul 16, 2024

UNBROKEN said:

Haven't gotten any quotes on a swap, just happened to see that one of the techs at EMS is working on one. I'll have to check out RSA. Hadn't heard of them yet.

Suprawill1 · Jul 16, 2024

2020FordRaptor said:

Right? Actually, not planning any more mods. This is as far as I'm taking it. Still want to take preventative measure as funds permit.
Also, I have to consider down time and travel being that they're located in Fla. This is the daily driver and the only other option is to find a used/recycled 60 and have that built and shipped back.

2020FordRaptor · Jul 16, 2024

Suprawill1 said:

RSA holds the record for the Explorer ST. They’ve achieved low 10 second quarter miles.

2020FordRaptor · Jul 16, 2024

Suprawill1 said:

That’s what I would do. You can find them cheap enough I think.

Suprawill1 · Jul 16, 2024

2020FordRaptor said:

Hoping so!

BrooseDaMoose · Sep 14, 2024

I see a lot of debate on whether or not a CAI, charge pipe or exhaust adds any hp gains. Is there any proof out there one way or the other?

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2020FordRaptor · Sep 14, 2024

BrooseDaMoose said:

Charge pipes show gains. Charge pipes with CAI show gains. Just a CAI isn’t worth it. Exhaust isn’t worth it either. There’s draft proof somewhere around one of the groups and flow charts from Adam about the intake and CAI.

BrooseDaMoose · Sep 14, 2024

OK, that's good enough for me. I thought I read somewhere in another post about him doing flow rates and saying the S&B flowed the best. But I thought that adding down pipes showed gains? I read that in another post by some very reputable members. I know adding just a cat-back system isn't good for anything but sound.

2020FordRaptor · Sep 14, 2024

BrooseDaMoose said:

Oh sorry, thought you were referring to just a cat back exhaust. Yes, down pipes are one of the best mods for power. Also, yes, it’s true the S&B flows the best, but that’s not saying much. It flows the best but not by a lot that’s worthwhile unless your FBO.

BrooseDaMoose · Sep 14, 2024

Excuse me for my ignorance but, FBO? Can't figure that one out. LOL!

2020FordRaptor · Sep 14, 2024

BrooseDaMoose said:

Full Bolt On

Suprawill1 · Sep 14, 2024

Down pipes have been known to show 20-25HP gains. The stock cat back is good for 700HP.
As far as been posted, you will run out of stock turbos before you run out of stock CAI flow.
With an S&B CAI and cold pipe, you won't feel it with a butt dyno.
An upgraded CAI and DPs are highly recommended if you go with upgraded turbos. In fact, they'll protect the longevity of the turbos.
They won't have to spin as fast to create X amount of boost and therefore letting them last longer and enhance their performance.
2020FordRaptor has a cool modding guide thread.
Another forum member that is highly proficient in actual performance numbers, formulas, graphs and know how is TMac.
He's my go to if I have high tech questions.

Suprawill1 · Sep 14, 2024

BrooseDaMoose said:

What's LOL?

2020FordRaptor · Sep 14, 2024

Suprawill1 said:

Down pipes have been known to show 20-25HP gains. The stock cat back is good for 700HP.
As far as been posted, you will run out of stock turbos before you run out of stock CAI flow.
With an S&B CAI and cold pipe, you won't feel it with a butt dyno.
An upgraded CAI and DPs are highly recommended if you go with upgraded turbos. In fact, they'll protect the longevity of the turbos.
They won't have to spin as fast to create X amount of boost and therefore letting them last longer and enhance their performance.
2020FordRaptor has a cool modding guide thread.
Another forum member that is highly proficient in actual performance numbers, formulas, graphs and know how is TMac.
He's my go to if I have high tech questions.

Agreed tmac is very knowledgeable on the high techy stuff I can’t explain.

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