Thoughts on '25 ST

So far, checked several dealers in my area. They are showing up, but all seem to have package 400A, 401A seems to have gone away. Checked Ford.com, no option for any package but 400A. I know they changed up standard equipment, so, that really doesn't mean much, looks like everything is still there. I agree with other posters, the new wheels aren't as nice looking, but that's a personal preference. I don't like the looks of the eco friendly seat material. Again, personal preference. Looks like they dropped from a Class IV hitch to a Class III. Of course, they also lowered the maximum towing capacity, which we knew.

ST SUV Experience is taking waiting lists for 2025, and says ST & ST-Line. Don't see the '25 Edge ST on their page, but, the '25 Edge is not available yet, anyway. I do NOT see the ST SUV Experience on the ST-Line window stickers.

I wonder what the time difference is going to be on the ST vs. ST-Line on the Auto-X at the Experience. We had a couple very quick Edge STs. One guy got a mid 29, beat most of the Explorers in our class. His lap of record beat my lap of record. (To protect my ego, my best lap was a quarter second faster than his lap of record, and was "perfect") I know, as I discussed elsewhere on this site, sometimes less power on a course can give you a faster time. Sometimes it's just driver skill. Would be a shame if the ST-Lines consistantly beat the STs because the turns are too tight and the lower HP helps from getting in too hot. The smaller engine will also make the car a little lighter.

Well first off, the 401a is now standard, so it is the 400a now. Also, ST-Line owners won’t be able to go to the ST Experience. And no, the ST has all the engine, suspensiln upgrades and brake upgrades that’ll beat the ST-Line any day, short course or not.

I thought the edge was cancelled and 24 was the final year.

There is only one package and almost everything in previous years that were options, are all standard right now.
Thats a good thing. There are only 4 Explore models and 4 colors as well.


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I thought the edge was cancelled and 24 was the final year.

Yes, I know, a lot of features have been moved to standard. Got it, I kinda referred to that.

But, the ST SUV Experience says '25 ST-Line waitlist available. See the picture I posted. I honestly have no clue, no inside info, I just know Ford added that language to their website, so I take it to mean they plan to add them. I don't know if they plan to drop the ST package from the Edge, or just plan to make it 3 groups. Or, if it was a mistake.

As to ST beating the ST-Line any day, any course, I would not be so sure. Like I said, I watched a guy who spent our welcome dinner telling everyone at the table about his mods to his Edge, run an extremely competitive lap in a stock Edge. With less horsepower, he beat almost all the Explorers, there were 10 Explorers, 6 Edges, his overall time was 4th for the group on the lap of record. And from what I've read, an awful lot of the people who posted times here would have lost to him. His lap of record was 29.532. I've worked on Late Models and USAR stock cars, I'm well aware of the difference in engines, suspension, brakes and tires. And on some tracks I've seen the less powerful Late Model beat the USAR car on qualifying laps. The Late Models were lighter, and had wider tires. And a 150 HP detriment. When I worked on Late Models, we had 350-360 HP. The USAR cars were upwards of 500 HP. This was over 20 years ago, by the way. Not sure what Late Models are getting now. USAR doesn't exist anymore.

I agree and disagree. Yes, an experienced racer can do things with inferior equipment. But, physics are physics. A superior suspension means a lot, but in some circumstances extra horsepower hurts. And horsepower to weight ratio also makes a difference. They have less horsepower, but less weight.

I thought the edge was cancelled and 24 was the final year.

It was..they closed out production iirc June

Sad..it was the perfect vehicle for 5 and still had room for gear
And not huge.

I've read the Super Duty is being built there. Production on the Nautilus is moving to China where they will still be building the Edge as an Edge L for other markets.

I've only driven an Edge once, a loaner while my old Explorer was in the shop. It was nice, but, I would never own one. I like my Explorers to much. I tote around three grandchildren from time to time, and it's a great grocery getter when the third and sometimes second row gets folded down. I've owned a few Mustangs, but most of my life I've owned and driven pick up trucks. I am used to driving a big vehicle and like it.

The Explorer is big, comfortable, even with this suspension, and pretty damned tough in an accident. My 2011 survived 3 deer strikes over its life, only 1 caused damage that resulted in a trip to the body shop. The first two I fixed in under 5 minutes in my driveway. My older XLT totaled an Outback that cut across the road in front of me and I drove away after the cop gave me permission. The Outback was dragged onto a rollback.

I usually went almost new. As soon as a vehicle gets titled and tagged, it loses several grand in value. Find one with low mileage that still has that new car smell and I'm happy. But, as I said elsewhere, I was going to buy a used Platinum, this probably my last purchase, and the dealer got me in the new ST for the same monthly payment. The ST SUV Experience pushed me to accept the extra couple years payments.