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Is the extended warranty going to cover it with all the aftermarket powertrain mods?

Absolutely. Ford held back on the Explorer and Expedition in this regard. I think GM now uses LED projectors across the entire Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon lines. But GM doesn't have a legitimate competitor to the Explorer in this segment.

+1. Those are LED reflectors.

Yeah, but the way I read it is that it applies to the sideview mirrors, not the front headlamp assembly: On the 2024 F150 Order Guide, starting with the Lariat trim, it specifies that it has LED Projector headlights under the "Exterior" section: ... I just don't see the 2025 Explorer Order...

Would you be able to take a close picture of the headlight assembly?

Are you sure? These look like reflectors for the ST. It also doesn't appear to be specifically mentioned in the 2025 Order Guide:

I thought most trims of the Explorer have LED reflectors, not projectors?

I believe Granger Ford shows you the invoice price of the vehicle on their price quote.

Have you reached out to Granger Ford for a quote? I believe they are 4-5% under invoice.

You sure that’s not a typo and you meant 13mpg? I think it would be a struggle to get 23mpg in stop and go traffic in DC without a car trailer + car…

Withholding 2025s in order to sell 2023s and 2024s won't work unless Ford want to take the L on 2025 sales. Ford just has to decide how they want to take the L. I'll take a 2023 Explorer ST for about $25-40k off MSRP though.

With 2025s right around the corner, a 2023 is basically a used car and should be priced accordingly.

I would imagine this would be accessories installed after the fact. Of course the PIU having a higher GVWR (and payload capacity) is Ford engineering anticipating that the PIU would need to carry additional gear than a retail Explorer. But not all PIUs are outfitted with a lot of gear. A...

Level III+ rated body armor should be soft panels so they won’t weigh a lot. Maybe 10-15 lbs per door at most? I can’t see most police departments outfitting most of their PIUs with Level IV armor.

The primary purpose of this is more protection for a rear impact I would presume.

I think the infotainment system and the dash are going to be a significant upgrades. My thought process is that since I usually keep vehicles for a long time (8+ years), waiting for a refresh allows me to have tech that will be one generation newer which is usually good for 3-4 years. That's a...

I think the issue is that we don't know, for sure, which spring part number goes with which PIU variant at this point. Some people may correctly claim that the ST spring part numbers match ONE of the PIU variants, but I don't think anyone can say with certainty which PIU variant. And there are...

I want to revisit this while referencing some of the things I suggested in Post #90. What you are saying may be true, but I'm curious if the ST uses the same/similar springs as the 3.3L DI V6 PIU variant which, coincidentally, has the lowest GVWR and highest ground clearance of all the PIU...

Unlikely. In fact, given the same/unchanged spring rate, additional structural reinforcement would increase the curb weight of the vehicle and, therefore, decrease payload. It will probably make the vehicle handle better as the chassis would deflect less under dynamic load. Structural changes...

Why would the GVWR be different between the PIU and ST then? What's the weight difference between the 3.0L EB PIU and ST?