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The PIU rear bar is in between the ST and Steeda/AFE bars, so of course it’s an upgrade. There are a few threads with comments on the PIU parts already. The PIU rear shocks are also allegedly stiffer, which could be a great combo to cut down the understeer. I have these parts waiting to go on...

Search… Lots of posts on these kits.

Ford does that for the masses. The PIU sway bars are 35/23 compared to 34/21.7 on the ST. If you want better/tighter turn-in for an IRS vehicle, you put a bigger bar on the rear.

Total waste. It’s 35mm just like the base model and PIU front bars. The ST front bar is smaller (at 34mm) for a reason.

My pleasure. After 20 or so years with IRS vehicles, I’ve been fortunate to pick up a trick or two. The ST isn’t as fun as my Cobra, but it can be improved nicely though!

There are many threads on these sway bars, but the comments here cover the gist of it. I’ve said many times that for an IRS-equipped vehicle, if you want to take corners tighter (i.e., more over-steer), you only need a larger rear bar and/or stiffer rear dampers. A front bar is just a waste of...

Awesome. Thanks for taking the leap and trying these. I had a feeling they’d be stiffer since the PIU rear bar is 23mm compared to 21.7mm in the ST. These will be a great option for anyone who has a larger rear bar and wants to tackle some curves with less under-steer. Have the PIU rear bar...

I’ve said it more than once (probably): for an IRS, if you want to take out any under-steer, a bigger rear bar is all you need, with stiffer shocks and springs out back as well. The front bar is a waste of money. Here’s a chart that will help.

If the powder coating didn’t hold up, the paint won’t stand a chance. Stay tuned.

Will have a used one available in the next week or so. It’s fairly rusty and might need to be re-coated, but it’s an option.

It is a bolt-in brace - attaches at the third row mounting points. It was a relatively easy mod in my ‘14, other than removing the side panels. I was fortunate to get everything from a wrecked PIU for about $500, but I’m guessing all the parts will run a couple thousand easily. Considering some...

It’s in the owner’s manual…

Totally forgot about the full-size spare being part of the rear crash rating. I think the 5G Explorer wasn’t beefed up as much, but here’s a better image of the 6G PIU frame where I think everything yellow is an upgrade to the frame (with the X-brace being obvious). If you can live without the...

Definitely a different market, and as I surmised up above about the ride height being allegedly different, I figured it was due to load and the tire size (although with that, I’ve never honestly looked at those numbers for the PIU). No doubt there will be more equipment, but interestingly, when...

LOL, no worries. Didn’t think about it from that angle, so that was good for a laugh. Just thinking about getting on the good side of my local guys and just seeing if I could go for a ride - hopefully in the front! Glad to chip in these details since it’s been interesting digging everything up...

Whenever guys slam their cars - most just because they think it looks ‘cool’ - you are throwing the alignment out of whack and potentially adding bump steer issues. Fortunately with plenty of other vehicles out there, parts are available to correct and remedy the situation. Not so here. Now with...

As an update to my second comment above, had a moment to look up my spring codes. They are easy to find on the tags hanging from the springs, or you can see them on the lower right of your VIN label. Mine are ‘DDTT’ - with the front being D’s and the rears T (confirmed by also looking at the...

What makes you think I’d expect the same ride/handling out of my ST that I get with my Cobra? Definitely no illusions there. Totally different ballpark. I looked at all the spring codes between the ST/PIU, and as far as I can tell, they are the same. I’m thinking any ride height difference is...

I’m really surprised nothing has come up from Bilstein or Koni. I do know Eibach has some stuff in the works, but whether it’s just springs or a complete package with sway bar(s) and maybe coil-overs, remains to be seen. I have Bilstein & Eibach struts/shocks/springs and the rear bar on my ‘03...

Yeah, with an IRS car, bigger is better…on the rear. I won’t waste my money on aftermarket bar for the front and am content with a larger one out back. The Steeda/AFE bar at full stiff is all you need, or on the inexpensive side, the PIU bar. If the rear shocks on the PIU’s are firmer, which I...