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Obviously they are cheaper, and of course they work by crushing/crimping the pipe. Still, you can just as easily grab the lap joint clamps or just weld. I don’t work for Gibson, so grousing about them is a waste of time. Doesn’t really matter anyway since the kits have been selling fine.

At least from the Ford drawing, there appear to be some attaching points on the frame that are used. Might be possible to adapt them if you’re willing to modify the bumper cover.

Yep, I inquired about that. From their perspective, they didn't want to use band clamps since the u-bolts provide maximum clamping force. Liability, I imagine. Probably saves a few $$$ as well. No worries though, the lap-joint clamps I showed a few posts back are easy enough to acquire or the...

Well, do the research and draw your own conclusions between the two. I’m not a fan of JLT stuff for my own reasons.

Not that I know, but you can always call them and grovel. Still a decent price no matter what, but the discount was definitely a bonus.

It’s not JLT.

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The axle-back kits are the best bang for the buck since it’s all about sound with very little gain in performance. Check out MRT, MBRP, and Gibson.

For anyone that has ordered these kits, just got word that Gibson anticipates they’ll start shipping in a couple weeks. They are a bit behind due to Thanksgiving, but are hustling. On a good note, over 40 kits were sold right off the bat which is very cool.

https://www.canvasback.com/ford-explorer-cargo-liners-40395.html

Ford should put this stuff in the owners manual...

^This. Search the web - there are LOTS of clips out there for any kit you choose. Otherwise, they just will essentially drain your wallet if you are simply looking to change the sound. If you want to do it economically, have a custom shop just swap out the mufflers - that is where most of the...

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Looks nice, but probably no real difference in performance despite their claims (the 2-1/2" Magnaflow kit is similar). Just as economical to go with an axle-back kit unless you are in need of new flex-pipes. Otherwise, decent sounding. P.S. @Clears: You have that 3-bolt rear subframe - just be...

The thicker rear bar is beneficial for handling and will help bring the under-steer down a bit. No difference in ride, and it also works great with the stock springs. For those of us that don't want to bother swapping to aftermarket springs, the sway bar is a perfect upgrade.

This is the picture on their site right now - I'm guessing about $1800: https://afepower.com/ford-explorer-st-performance-upgrades-parts-intake-exhaust-tuner-air-filter

Sent a PM last week. Wondering if it's still available.

Put in my order for the ‘B’ kit today, confirmed it will be a couple weeks or so to receive it, which is not a big deal. Getting it for around $500 was nice. Since I‘m not planning on swapping out the DP’s, just didn’t see the need to spend 3x more just for a sound change. Always happy to...

Might just be some damage control by Ford to show small numbers. Seems silly to issue a recall for only “20” vehicles when they could reach out quietly to those owners. Then again, this might be the only proper way to go about it. In any case, hopefully it is a good start for sure.

I wonder if this recall for the rear suspension “module” is what is meant for the subframe: https://fordauthority.com/2021/11/2021-ford-explorer-aviator-recalled-over-rear-suspension-module-issue/