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Wife really likes White, but said Silver is ok. I like white better. I heard that there may be some new incentives come January 1th. May just wait and see if that happens. If the silver one gets sold....wasn't meant to be. Jim

Another one bites the dust. Was working on one in Nashville , it fell thru ...my decision , they wanted $40,000 and my Lincoln , and wouldn't come down . So I spent 2 days on internet checking every ford dealer within 2-3 hours drive. There are none to be had , except a few used , high mileage...

Congrats , nice, Glad you found the one you wanted . Welcome to the forum from KY. Jim

Well I have another problem also. This will be more my wife's than mine, and only white is allowed in the garage. So that whittles down the available ones .:) Jim

There are no new 2020s within 150 miles of me. Some used ones, and very few 2021s. I working with a dealer ,125 miles from me now. Trying to make the deal over the fone. So far so good. Will get down to final numbers tomorrow. Jim

I wonder if the 2021 has debugged some of those things. Jim

Yeah , I've driven Lincoln and Cadillac SUVs and they are smooth , luxurious, and very quiet interior. My MKC Lincoln is whisper quiet. So , I was hoping , for the the big price tag , the ST would be decent in the same areas, but , the 2 I drove handled great not noisy , just not Cadillac. But...

I've only test drove 2, and one had wind noise the other did not. I'm a thinking you are paying (a lot) more for performance , motor and suspension tuning than for luxury. Lincoln and Cadillac are extremely quiet and luxurious , but don't handle or have muscle. Jim

Well dang , that's not good. Is that kind of a common thing with these cars? I'm still trying to get one. Got one lined up in Nashville , start negotiating tomorrow. Jim

Well, I gotta start over, stop in the dealer today , fully intending to make a deal and drive it home. SOLD yesterday.... bummer. Found another one in Nashville TN. Hope I can work out all the details over phone without 6 trips , 1 1/2 hrs each way. Called , some specialist will call me. This...

Still a stand off. I may contact them today, as I'll be driving right by there. I just hate to be the first one to blink. Still trying. Jim Sent from my moto e5 plus using Tapatalk

Welcome from West side of KY. Jim

Seems to be several Geezer Gearheads here that still have fast, muscle , big powerful cars in their blood. I personally wonder if it's in my genes. At 74 I still love to feel that , push you into the seat , feeling. I love the sound of power from the 3 dueces (progressive linkage), 2 quads...

Was that a 2020 ? Jim

Just pulled up the window sticker on the 2021 ST that I'm negotiating to buy, build date was 11/20/2020. Clearly states Sync 3. Jim

Welcome from West KY. At least you got one. I'm still trying. Jim

I read , can't recall where , that 2021s were Sync 4. Is that not true?

Well I gotta say , this SALESMAN today was the worst I've ever had to deal with. I knew it wasn't gonna go well , when he couldn't tell me anything about the vehicle, or any thing for that matter. So I suggested they take my car and value it for trade. He did. He sat down , after visiting his...

This old Geezer Gearhead is still waiting to hear back from dealer on the last offer. So thanks to Dallas ST here, I found another White one in Livermore Ky. It has the street pack instead of hi performance pack, so it's about $700 cheaper. Guess I'll go start new negotiations today. Its a...

Ok, I had been told , the 2020 didn't have it. I've never driven a 2020 , so it was just hearsay. Thanks for straighten that out. Good info as I'm trying to buy my first ST. Can you talk about exactly what some differences are? Jim