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  1. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    Drove an MDX, cheap and feels very flimsy - the Atlas is an overweight slow boat on wheels
  2. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    I am going to say surprise, and that I am asking for a small metal cube of my car to be shipped to my dealership!
  3. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    I'll tell you what, I am going to apply for a job at Ford corporate and if I have any say in this, your upgrade will be on the house! But in other news, I think that I will be looking at the Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve, after refreshing my order and seeing this... anyone else seeing cancelled...
  4. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    Thanks for your support folks... this is the deadlocked explorer support group now! With regards to all of the comments about 2024, which is just 4 months away, it is even funnier in a morbid kind of way with the new design just around the corner.. I wonder if they will make the unsold and...
  5. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    This is one of those, “well whatever”, scenarios. Whatever group at Ford decided that the cars have to be grounded by NHTSA mandate, and that since there is nothing that can be done until another team eventually cobbles together a fix, there is no solution other than to wait. Why look for...
  6. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    I just called CAP, operator unavailable, voicemail full. Started keying in names that I found as Plant Managers at the Chicago Plant on LinkedIn, but they don’t exist in the system directory. I did match up a tech name with a LinkedIn profile but could be wasting time if they are not in the...
  7. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    I hear you… maybe try getting it registered when the dealer marks the car as sold, since they cannot do it now anyway? Call it an offer to back date the ESP by the selling dealership at time of sale, not at time of deal closing. Technically you could just say that price paid is that which you...
  8. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    Ask me about how I feel about Toyota, which is supposedly “the” most reliable out there and lost its valve seals at 3k on a brand new car early this year. Good luck… sadly poor quality is the norm and it is a bit like bad dating advice that I was given years ago - “all girls are crazy - just...
  9. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    If you enjoy the car, I would keep on driving until the fix is applied. The ESP should be available to buy until end of factory warranty (at least it had been possible to buy an extended in the past in Canada). A lot of us envy you on the fact that you have your car! Personally, I am looking...
  10. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    Well, if Motor Trend knew everything, they would have lots of info to also guide us with our Stop Sale problem now, wouldn‘t they? Let me change my tone over to yours; you shit on a fellow forum member trying to offer advice to someone moving to a platform with issues, with your toilet bowl...
  11. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    If you can still back out of it, do not get the Telluride. I know two people who had their homes go down with their Tellurides nice and crispy. And another who got the warning not to park near their house the week after he took delivery... and that’s just the more serious issues. The brand...
  12. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    I never said that it was any kind of stop - I am just pointing out that it is another botched implementation by the same backwards thought processes and likely some cross contamination of cruddy design, engineering from most likely a third party supplier that either contracts out parts, labour...
  13. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    As a sidenote, Honda has had similar 360 cam issues as someone mentioned earlier, and now I stumbled upon this.… ah the era of third party supplier and outsourced slap-copy-and-paste programming from the lowest bidder, coming together and amassing into a giant cluster…...
  14. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    There is a law here as well (I’m in Ontario myself), requiring a backup camera on every new car. Keeping that in mind, this stop sale was released by order of the NHTSA - NOT by any Canadian authority. The reason for the stop sale was the continued reporting of “occasional” issues with it not...
  15. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    Out of curiousity, has anyone here recently checked and seen their order actually shipped?
  16. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    My $1000 discount info came from my dealership, who got that from Ford corporate. I get the feeling that current “updated” delivery dates are just placeholders. Nobody’s got a car that is currently shipping by the look of things. Mine is supposed to be here in 2 weeks, which is now a pipe...
  17. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    We will know soon enough if September is viable or whether it was just a generic new date submitted for everyone’s cars sitting in Chicago. If indeed true, they should be shipping any day now (or already shipped). If I don’t see my car shipped off by end of the month then chances are it will...
  18. J

    Ford Explorer ST Recall 23S23 360 Degree Camera Stop Sale

    Blend? Is that a ship out date or arrival date lol… Seems like you will probably get the $1000 for no 360 and delay credit.


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