It's like you only follow your own posts and nobody else's.
He was also talking about "resale" values, so obviously cost is also a concern.
Berating comments like yours that ST's are "a dime a dozen" are themselves a dime a dozen.
To even say that the number of ST's you see are "staggering" is staggering itself, as you don't seem to realize that when you own a vehicle you look for it more often and therefore "see" more of them.
Regarding the "handling of the twisties", credit must be given where credit is due. While the ST clearly does very well in that parameter, instrumented testing of the SRT showed it generated slightly higher lateral g's on the skidpad and was praised for its "uncanny poise and body control."
Lastly, an RS version could put an upgraded Explorer ST exactly where FORD doesn't want it. It's certainly not one of my dreams and I doubt that of many others.
Again I don't think you understand how resale values work. If he was looking at durango hellcats he could afford one, or at least that's how I would do it. Resale value has nothing to do with cost, the porsche 911's have a great resale value/awesome driving car and people buy them for a combination of both and cost is not even remotely a concern.
What will hold better? A one year limited production vehicle or a massively produced vehicle for multiple years.
You just keep making my point stronger and stronger, he did not buy the explorer st for a better resale value lol, it is the better overall car minus straight line performance and acceleration but it gets killed in resale, now the St is the more affordable option sure and definitely the better bang for buck but resale value will never match a one year limited production run for a legendary motor.
Yeah when you own a vehicle you look for it more that's right, but after owning two hellcats (on my 2nd now) I can count the number of times on my hand that I have seen another hellcat in multiple years on the street, I see St's daily.... it's a mass produced car.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fordau...st-represents-one-in-five-explorers-sold/amp/
They make about 200k explorers per year, do the math.
As far as the RS goes, I would place an order for an rs today, why doesn't ford want the the St to be where it is if there's an rs? If fca is producing the trackhawk and the durango then it would absolutely make sense to at least put together a concept.
Realistically however, ford has already sand bagged the St, pulling 75-100 hp off a tune shows how much room is left in the tank, it's a marketing thing we get it, they don't want to make more horsepower than the raptor, so the RS will probably never get made.
In my opinion Ford chose the middle ground with the St, performance oriented but not too powerful. I would love to see the St come stock at circa 500 hp for 61-63k fully optioned out, in that case you wouldn't need an RS, but since ford went the sandbag route that's why people would say an RS makes some sense.
The Srt's handle well yes, but actually having driven the durango hellcat and St on the street is a different story, the St feels more planted and effortless, being lighter here does wonders, the Hellcat is a straight up menace coming out of the turns, but a lot of body roll and feeling that weight in the front inspires less confidence. On a racetrack or figure 8 the durango is probably better but to me the St feels planted on the streets, we shall see how it goes on the track one of these days.
As for berating the St, you must never have learned how to critique a vehicle, almost every vehicle has flaws, do they outweigh the pro's? Absolutely not or I wouldn't have the vehicle, but it's imperative for you to understand your St isn't some rare commodity, it's quite common and that's just a fact, again 1 in every 5 explorers sold are St, I don't find anything wrong with a car being common at all, in this case it's indicative of how popular a vehicle is and how ford did a pretty decent job at designing the vehicle.
