2025 Explorer ST - Keypad question

[midwestexpdriver]

I just picked up our new 2025 ST about a week ago. When I ordered it I knew that the keypad was a dealer installed option per the Ford.com site. I didn't bring it up with the dealer prior to delivery because I figured I could have it installed after I got it plus I wanted to wait to see what the install entailed. Today I was at the dealer getting an oil change in my truck and I asked the salesman about it, he referred me to the parts guy who referred me to the service guy. At first they thought I wanted to have them add an aftermarket kit but I convinced them that it was in fact a Ford option that the would install. Needless to say my confidence in them is not high at this point (first time buying from this dealer).

Now my question(s).
Is it a difficult install for a knowledgeable Ford service department? Is there much disassembly required on the door (or other parts of the vehicle)?
For those that have had it installed have there been any compatibility issues that have popped up?
Why did Ford make this a dealer installed option? Did they stop installing at the factory in previous years?

I did do a search for "keypad" and didn't see any post that answered my questions. Thanks for any input provided.

 

[GomerPyleST]

I had a dealer lose a 60k sale because of this. I found the 2025 I wanted but I saw that it had the dealer added keypad for $455. Texted the dealer and asked if that could be removed and the $455 taken off the vehicle. He then tried to tell me that the keypad was included in the price from the factory and could not be removed. I told him that was not true as even their own window sticker stated that it was a dealer added $455 option and if I went to build one it was also an option. I also told him I did not want that on my car because (no offense) the car has keyless entry and key fobs so why should a door keypad ever be needed? I them told him I would look elsewhere. (Basically he just wanted to make an extra quick $455.) anyhow I found one at another site that had no add on’s and got a quote I liked from them which was lower. A day later the first dealer texts me and say if I reduce the cost by $455 will you buy the car? I said nope, I already found one at another dealer I was going to test drive. For 3 days after that last text he texted me and emailed me trying to get me to buy the car he had. I had to literally tell him to stop emailing me because I already bought my car from the other dealer. I told him, I’m sorry but you lost a 60k sale (got it cheaper than that by the way) over a $455 option that you would not budge on. (Did not want $455 off, I did not want that option on my car). I hope he learns that it’s better not to try and force stuff on people that they don’t want as I probably would have bought it from him if he just took it off.

 

[GomerPyleST]

P.S. sorry to try and answer your questions. The option looked pretty easy to install when I looked at it. Basically it was the black door trim piece with a wire that had a connector coming off of it. Looked to me like ya just plug it in somewhere after you install it. However the dealer might have to program it or something but not sure on that. I’m guessing it would take a good dealer maybe an hour to install‍♂️. Can not really comment on the other questions. Sorry.

 

[KANSAS]

There are many dealer installed options that can appear on the window sticker. Roof crossbars, mudflaps, cargo mats, etc. If it is on the window sticker then it is included in the price and is not separately charged. Just separately installed.

FWIW there are still many reasons people want and use the door keypad, even with remote and phone access.

 

[DaveG ST]

Y

There are many dealer installed options that can appear on the window sticker. Roof crossbars, mudflaps, cargo mats, etc. If it is on the window sticker then it is included in the price and is not separately charged. Just separately installed.

FWIW there are still many reasons people want and use the door keypad, even with remote and phone access.

Yup, I am one of those that love the door keypad. I use it exclusively.

 

[midwestexpdriver]

I had a dealer lose a 60k sale because of this. I found the 2025 I wanted but I saw that it had the dealer added keypad for $455. Texted the dealer and asked if that could be removed and the $455 taken off the vehicle. He then tried to tell me that the keypad was included in the price from the factory and could not be removed. I told him that was not true as even their own window sticker stated that it was a dealer added $455 option and if I went to build one it was also an option. I also told him I did not want that on my car because (no offense) the car has keyless entry and key fobs so why should a door keypad ever be needed? I them told him I would look elsewhere. (Basically he just wanted to make an extra quick $455.) anyhow I found one at another site that had no add on’s and got a quote I liked from them which was lower. A day later the first dealer texts me and say if I reduce the cost by $455 will you buy the car? I said nope, I already found one at another dealer I was going to test drive. For 3 days after that last text he texted me and emailed me trying to get me to buy the car he had. I had to literally tell him to stop emailing me because I already bought my car from the other dealer. I told him, I’m sorry but you lost a 60k sale (got it cheaper than that by the way) over a $455 option that you would not budge on. (Did not want $455 off, I did not want that option on my car). I hope he learns that it’s better not to try and force stuff on people that they don’t want as I probably would have bought it from him if he just took it off.

The option is not a must for me. My truck has it and I found that I used it more than I thought I would. I wouldn't have it installed if they door would need to be completely disassembled or if I am not confident in the service departments abilities.

 

[bluesnake01]

I had a dealer lose a 60k sale because of this. I found the 2025 I wanted but I saw that it had the dealer added keypad for $455. Texted the dealer and asked if that could be removed and the $455 taken off the vehicle. He then tried to tell me that the keypad was included in the price from the factory and could not be removed. I told him that was not true as even their own window sticker stated that it was a dealer added $455 option and if I went to build one it was also an option. I also told him I did not want that on my car because (no offense) the car has keyless entry and key fobs so why should a door keypad ever be needed? I them told him I would look elsewhere. (Basically he just wanted to make an extra quick $455.) anyhow I found one at another site that had no add on’s and got a quote I liked from them which was lower. A day later the first dealer texts me and say if I reduce the cost by $455 will you buy the car? I said nope, I already found one at another dealer I was going to test drive. For 3 days after that last text he texted me and emailed me trying to get me to buy the car he had. I had to literally tell him to stop emailing me because I already bought my car from the other dealer. I told him, I’m sorry but you lost a 60k sale (got it cheaper than that by the way) over a $455 option that you would not budge on. (Did not want $455 off, I did not want that option on my car). I hope he learns that it’s better not to try and force stuff on people that they don’t want as I probably would have bought it from him if he just took it off.

Dont rely on the app to lock/unlock things. If you get spotty service or the vehicle has spotty service, it will not work. It also takes a bit for it engage. Keypad works much better and faster in these scenarios

I wished it had the NFC like the Aviators, use it all the time on my BMW, Unlock/lock and use the phone as a key. Way better than using app and dont rely on cell phone service.

 

[Soulja4187]

There's a post where someone tried installing their keypad and was unsuccessful because it needs to be programmed to the car. I had mine installed and it does show up on center screen so you can add or delete secondary access codes.

 

[ConspicuousConsumption]

I wished it had the NFC like the Aviators, use it all the time on my BMW, Unlock/lock and use the phone as a key. Way better than using app and dont rely on cell phone service.

This sounds awesome!

 

[bluesnake01]

This sounds awesome!

It is, the key gets saved as a CC on your apple wallet/ Google wallet and use it like a CC. You tap the door handle with the phone to unlock/lock the car and leave the phone on the center console which also charges the phone wirelessly lol

No physical key needed at all.

You can also send it as a temp to someone. Say you're out of town and/or relative needs to move/drive the car. You send them a temp key card, it'll be used the same way and you can remove the temp card anytime you want so they wont have access to it anymore.

 

[DaveG ST]

I have a 2020 and have probably only seen my key fob twice in the past year, and that is only because the dealer and tire shop required the key fob in their hands. Not having a keypad is pretty much a deal breaker for me. It also keeps the peace with the wife as I don't have to look for keys.

 

[ConspicuousConsumption]

I have a 2020 and have probably only seen my key fob twice in the past year, and that is only because the dealer and tire shop required the key fob in their hands. Not having a keypad is pretty much a deal breaker for me. It also keeps the peace with the wife as I don't have to look for keys.

do you just store a fob in the car somewhere?

 

[DaveG ST]

do you just store a fob in the car somewhere?

Yup, there is a place in the center console designed for the key fob.

 

[ConspicuousConsumption]

Yup, there is a place in the center console designed for the key fob.

Huh, now I feel dumb

 

[BrooseDaMoose]

Huh, now I feel dumb

LOL! I think this is where they are referring to:

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