3rd to 5th Shift

[colliedog]

I have a ZFG tune where I can see what gear the vehicle is in. When accelerating at your average rate my car shifts from 3rd straight to 5th and skips over 4th gear. Is this common?

 

[edeyoung2]

I have a ZFG tune where I can see what gear the vehicle is in. When accelerating at your average rate my car shifts from 3rd straight to 5th and skips over 4th gear. Is this common?

Mine does the exact same thing. If you push it harder it won’t skip the gear.


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[2020FordRaptor]

I have a ZFG tune where I can see what gear the vehicle is in. When accelerating at your average rate my car shifts from 3rd straight to 5th and skips over 4th gear. Is this common?

It’s called skip shifts, and the car does it stock. Thought ZFG disabled it.

 

[colliedog]

Thanks guys! I'll reach out to Adam to see if he can disable it for me. Appreciate the help.

 

[GrocreyGetter]

While driving in normal mode it does it, in sport mode it goes through all gears up and down.

 

[Grabber]

It’s called skip shifts, and the car does it stock. Thought ZFG disabled it.

ZFG keeps skip shift on I believe, as that is how my ST has been tuned and drives.

Never noticed it in stock form, but I do notice it with the tune in sport mode.

 

[GrocreyGetter]

ZFG keeps skip shift on I believe, as that is how my ST has been tuned and drives.

Never noticed it in stock form, but I do notice it with the tune in sport mode.

I'm tuned by him as well and in normal it will skip shift to keep the daily drivability, in sport mode it hits every gear up and down for me

 

[Grabber]

I'm tuned by him as well and in normal it will skip shift to keep the daily drivability, in sport mode it hits every gear up and down for me

Wild.

In sport, if I am cruising, my shifts will go 1 to 3, 3-5 then 5-6 and only I have yet to see the car shift to 7-8 in sport on the highway around 80-85MPH. Normal it goes through pretty much every gear from what I can recall.

 

[GrocreyGetter]

Do you have the DMS tune?

 

[colliedog]

Mine only does it in normal mode as well. Sport mode hits every fear. Glad you all cleared this up for me.

 

[edeyoung2]

Does anyone else have slow shifting into second gear under low throttle input? I was told my ford it is normal.


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[Suprawill1]

Shifting in normal mode is designed to advance to the next gear that will keep RPMs within a fuel saving range. If there's no requirement for acceleration, it will jump gears to keep the RPMs down. You will notice this even more on a downgrade where there's even less of a load on the engine.

Tune experiences will be different with different types of tunes. A DMS tune will differ from other tunes of the same tuning company. Even with that, it will depend on what profile is in a specific drive mode as to how it will respond.

I'm currently working with the 93DMS tune. Even in sport mode alone, the shifting characteristics will vary depending on acceleration. When driving normally in sport, it will shift normally but at slightly higher RPMs than normal mode. If I give say, half throttle or more, the RPMs will stay above 2500RPM, even when I let off because it's tuned to stay in a spooled power band when driving spirited.

Because of different tunes, driving habits and conditions, shifting experiences are going to differ but all, most evidently by design.

 

[Suprawill1]

Does anyone else have slow shifting into second gear under low throttle input? I was told my ford it is normal.


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Not here but Ford would be the last place I would trust with that diagnosis. At least from my experiences.
First thing I would do is check transmission fluid to make sure it isn't low. Sounds like your not getting enough fluid pressure to shift until it builds up.

 

[Grabber]

Do you have the DMS tune?

Yes, I do.

 

[2020FordRaptor]

Does anyone else have slow shifting into second gear under low throttle input? I was told my ford it is normal.


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When the transmission is cold or at operating temp? I get slow shifting into second gear when the tranny is cold, but thats because it's not at operating temp. These 10r60s, as well as the 10r80s shift oddly to begin with, so when they're not up to operating temp they aren't happy.

 

[edeyoung2]

When the transmission is cold or at operating temp? I get slow shifting into second gear when the tranny is cold, but thats because it's not at operating temp. These 10r60s, as well as the 10r80s shift oddly to begin with, so when they're not up to operating temp they aren't happy.

It doesn’t matter the temp. It’s probably the adaptive learning. I’ve always accelerated slow until shifting into second and then pushed it a little harder. Anything above 40 or 50% throttle it shifts fine.


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[2020FordRaptor]

It doesn’t matter the temp. It’s probably the adaptive learning. I’ve always accelerated slow until shifting into second and then pushed it a little harder. Anything above 40 or 50% throttle it shifts fine.


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Have you checked tranny fluid level?

 

[edeyoung2]

Have you checked tranny fluid level?

I’m planning on having it changed later this year. It just seems like other gears would do the same.


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