A-z plan D plan… invoice??

[Fmoser]

Dealer is showing me the invoice and telling me they have no more room to move …. What are the plans above mentioned that show a lower price ??

 

[UGADawg96]

X plan is basically invoice. The others are better than invoice, but you probably don't qualify.

Granger offers 4% below invoice, but you have to custom order and pickup or have it shipped.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...der-at-granger-ford.19456/page-24#post-453897

 

[UNBROKEN]

Times change but I bought my ST for 3% below invoice with nothing but good credit and a walk away attitude.

 

[Fmoser]

Dealer is at 2.5% off with 3500 in rebates plus they are giving me an average price on my trade if I go that way.
trying to get more out of them but they keep playing the game.. what would you like to see in the deal crap.
I told them I have another dealer giving a better deal, give me your best and final..

 

[Chairborne Ranger]

The ST I bought last Friday was a special order by a 75+ year old gentleman last August and was the first 2025 to arrive on the lot of my dealership. He returned it the next day as he found it too complicated for him to operate. The SUV sat on the lot until I drove it in December '24; I was looking for a Platinum with the turbo V-6 and the one they had on the lot was sold the day before I came in.. I drove this ST and like it and came back in January after considering a Honda Pilot and thinking about a Grand Highlander (but due to Toyota's issues with this vehicle I couldn't find one in my immediate area to even sit in). This ST had everything including the Sun & Sound package and was MSRP stickered at $61,790.

Because it has been on the lot for over 145 days the dealer was motivated to sell it and I got an additional $4495 off. With the trade in of my low mileage (30,750) 2019 Mazda CX-9 GT, I wrote them a check for $41,735.39 which I think is fair for this current market but crazy overall. In the 6 years since I bought the Mazda, SUV's in this segment have gone up $20 in price for the same auto. I had people tell me to get a Lincoln Aviator because it's basically the same car but a bit nicer; that's true but for what they're asking and considering my rural lifestyle it's not worth it to me.

 

[Chairborne Ranger]

Ooops, that's $20K in price not $20.

 

[Fmoser]

The ST I bought last Friday was a special order by a 75+ year old gentleman last August and was the first 2025 to arrive on the lot of my dealership. He returned it the next day as he found it too complicated for him to operate. The SUV sat on the lot until I drove it in December '24; I was looking for a Platinum with the turbo V-6 and the one they had on the lot was sold the day before I came in.. I drove this ST and like it and came back in January after considering a Honda Pilot and thinking about a Grand Highlander (but due to Toyota's issues with this vehicle I couldn't find one in my immediate area to even sit in). This ST had everything including the Sun & Sound package and was MSRP stickered at $61,790.

Because it has been on the lot for over 145 days the dealer was motivated to sell it and I got an additional $4495 off. With the trade in of my low mileage (30,750) 2019 Mazda CX-9 GT, I wrote them a check for $41,735.39 which I think is fair for this current market but crazy overall. In the 6 years since I bought the Mazda, SUV's in this segment have gone up $20 in price for the same auto. I had people tell me to get a Lincoln Aviator because it's basically the same car but a bit nicer; that's true but for what they're asking and considering my rural lifestyle it's not worth it to me.

Nice. Coming from Jeep I was looking at the Toyotas, no 4Runners anywhere except for used and as you know, nothing coming. The had a Land Cruiser, so I took it for a drive… then I saw the sticker of almost 80k and a 5 k dealer markup, hell no. Aviator was nice but like you, maybe too fancy (and expensive..75k) for my lifestyle. Plus I see them so often as Limos around me, I couldn’t get that out of my head. I guess a fun to drive cop car is for me now!

 

[Chairborne Ranger]

The Grand Highlander has suffered from significant teething trouble as a new generation model. They had the recall and stop sale/build disaster from airbag problems and some other issues. A neighbor traded in her Mercedes SUV for one of the first GH's to hit the showroom late last summer and waited about 8 months to get her second key fob. Also, Toyota insists on putting Chrometec plastic wheels on their top trim models which I despise.

When I talked to the dealer in October they said the pipeline was reopened and they'd have plenty of inventory in about 30 days which did not happen. Even today they have one GH on the website which is being built and pre-sold. They have about 3 Land Cruisers and they're all over $70K and 4-Runners aren't due to hit the lot until next month...maybe, and will be MSRP plus.

The Honda Pilot redesign a few years ago looked good but after lurking on the 'Piloteer' forum for several months it was apparent this generation build had numerous niggling issues that were troubling owners. For example there is some sort of plastic clip for the pano sunroof shade that breaks and prevents the shade from being closed. From the forum comments the parts were often backordered and took months to arrive and required major disassembly of the headliner to repair. No thanks. Around here in my rural TX location you buy a domestic brand, or Toyota, Honda, VW, Nissan, Mazda, Kia, or Hyundai, even Subaru is too exotic for this place. This is my first Ford and I'm hoping it will be a good experience.