Anyone try these ebay black lug nuts

[2020FordRaptor]

EDIT: I HAD THE WRONG LUGS, PLEASE IGNORE POSTS THANKS!

Hello everyone:

So I will be another person to say, these vehicles should have come with black lug nuts. Well they didn't and no use complaining about it. So, searched around the net, and obviously found Ford Performaces lugs, but the $195 sounds a little steep to me. I found these for $30 from Gorilla (who I have heard good things about). Now I don't want my wheel to be coming off, so if I have to spend $195 then that's fine, I'm just wondering if these ones from Gorilla will be fine.

Thanks!

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Wrong thread size, the 20+ explorers use the larger 14mm x 1.5 thread. Find a set in the correct thread and you should be good.

I just checked amazon and a set of gorilla nuts in the right thread size is a 130 bucks.

 

[2020FordRaptor]

Hahaha so dumb. Alright, I'll check those out. Thanks!

 

[Rocketw19]

Gorilla as a company is very good been around forever. each lug nut is a lock (easy to defeat) but there is 5 on each wheel lol. for looks the ford performance ones will look better IMO.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

But the ford performance ones are capped just like the OEM lug nuts, which can round off or swell up when the plain steel lug nut underneath starts to rust then you can't get a socket on them. For what ford charges for them, your better off buying a good aftermarket set that is solid like the gorillas or McGard.

This is the set I bought for my ST when I put on my 22's
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007QB5AVA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This set comes with 16 standard lug nuts, and 4 locking lug nuts with a matching key.

These nuts take a 22mm socket so if you don't have one, get one. I bought this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008XN7SM4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

[Chuy903]

Summit racing has some for 25$ for 4

 

[SETXExpSTGuy]

FWIW, Gorilla lists the exact same part number for both the Explorer lugs and the Mustang lugs, as do many others who sell lugs. Personally, I have ordered a set of these Mustang Lugs and will soon be installing them on my ST.

 

[Copperhead73]

FWIW, Gorilla lists the exact same part number for both the Explorer lugs and the Mustang lugs, as do many others who sell lugs. Personally, I have ordered a set of these Mustang Lugs and will soon be installing them on my ST.

Have you installed them yet?

 

[SETXExpSTGuy]

Have you installed them yet?

Not yet as I have neither a 22mm socket or a torque wrench capable of 150 lb-ft, so I am going to have to wait until I get a chance to run by the tire shop to have them thrown on.

 

[Mekks082]

https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automotive-96643BDX-Factory-20-Pack/dp/B01N4VSVYG

That is the set I bought, every lug is splined and "locking". I know you can get em off without but would make the quick grab alot harder.

 

[GearHead_1]

FWIW, Gorilla lists the exact same part number for both the Explorer lugs and the Mustang lugs, as do many others who sell lugs. Personally, I have ordered a set of these Mustang Lugs and will soon be installing them on my ST.

They'll fit, they are the same diameter, pitch, and shoulder taper but the Explorer and Mustang lug nuts have different shoulders on them. The Explorer uses the larger bulge shoulder than the Mustang. Ask me how I know. eBay's application pages show them to be different. I'll try to get a picture up. It simply comes down to the surface area that makes contact with the wheel. I'll try to get a picture up. Here's another thread on this:

https://www.explorerst.org/threads/conical-seat-angle.4143/#post-53719

 

[GearHead_1]

These are both Gorilla lug nuts. The larger lugnut is for the Explorer and Trucks and is the same size as the chrome ones that come on the vehicle. The smaller one is the lugnut mentioned early in this thread. I know firsthand that the one on the left will fit Edge wheels whereas the larger one will not fit in the stud hole. The splined lug nuts come in the same configuration.

Don't get me wrong. Both of these lug nuts will fit a 14mm 1.5 pitch stud. If you go to a tire shop and buy a specific wheel they may require a smaller seat as the wheel may have a smaller lug nut hole. Some people like to see the lug nut recessed and may choose the shorter one. If you're using the Ford wheels you might want to consider what was designed for the Ford wheel, then again maybe not.

Take a look at eBay's catalog, it's easy to use but does show these nuts for different applications.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Not yet as I have neither a 22mm socket or a torque wrench capable of 150 lb-ft, so I am going to have to wait until I get a chance to run by the tire shop to have them thrown on.

If you read the description, those lugs take a standard 13/16 or 21mm socket. The McGard ones I mentioned a few posts earlier is the only ones I've ever seen that takes an oversize 22 mm.

I have a set of the cheap black lug nuts from american muscle for my stock wheels and I can verify they are 21 mm.

 

[Blown F-150]

These are both Gorilla lug nuts. The larger lugnut is for the Explorer and Trucks and is the same size as the chrome ones that come on the vehicle. The smaller one is the lugnut mentioned early in this thread. I know firsthand that the one on the left will fit Edge wheels whereas the larger one will not fit in the stud hole. The splined lug nuts come in the same configuration.

Don't get me wrong. Both of these lug nuts will fit a 14mm 1.5 pitch stud. If you go to a tire shop and buy a specific wheel they may require a smaller seat as the wheel may have a smaller lug nut hole. Some people like to see the lug nut recessed and may choose the shorter one. If you're using the Ford wheels you might want to consider what was designed for the Ford wheel, then again maybe not.

Take a look at eBay's catalog, it's easy to use but does show these nuts for different applications.

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Good call out. I run the larger ones when the stock wheels are on and the smaller ones when the aftermarket wheels are on.


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[SETXExpSTGuy]

They'll fit, they are the same diameter, pitch, and shoulder taper but the Explorer and Mustang lug nuts have different shoulders on them. The Explorer uses the larger bulge shoulder than the Mustang. Ask me how I know. eBay's application pages show them to be different. I'll try to get a picture up. It simply comes down to the surface area that makes contact with the wheel. I'll try to get a picture up. Here's another thread on this:

https://www.explorerst.org/threads/conical-seat-angle.4143/#post-53719

Not disputing that there is a difference, in fact just looking at the still-installed OEM nuts and the Mustang nuts it's quite obvious that there is, but it is interesting that Gorilla, McGard, and even Ford Performance all list the same part number for both the Explorer and the Mustang.

 

[SETXExpSTGuy]

If you read the description, those lugs take a standard 13/16 or 21mm socket. The McGard ones I mentioned a few posts earlier is the only ones I've ever seen that takes an oversize 22 mm.

I have a set of the cheap black lug nuts from american muscle for my stock wheels and I can verify they are 21 mm.

The ones I received from American Muscle are definitely 13/16 (.8125") whereas the OEM nuts are 22mm, so I can't get the OEMs off without a 22mm. Even if I could, I would still need them torqued and the tire shop charges the same, so I'll just let them do it all.

 

[GearHead_1]

Not disputing that there is a difference, in fact just looking at the still-installed OEM nuts and the Mustang nuts it's quite obvious that there is, but it is interesting that Gorilla, McGard, and even Ford Performance all list the same part number for both the Explorer and the Mustang.

I believe they list this the way they do because it is wheel dependent. Some wheels, like the stock ones, have room for the larger nut, and some aftermarket wheels do not.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

whereas the OEM nuts are 22mm, so I can't get the OEMs off without a 22mm.

Are you sure about that? I have 3 complete sets sitting in a box of 14 x1.50 capped OEM lug nuts from my mustang, the wifes edge, and my explorer and every single one of them out of 60 in total came off with a 21 mm or a 13/16.

 

[SETXExpSTGuy]

Are you sure about that? I have 3 complete sets sitting in a box of 14 x1.50 capped OEM lug nuts from my mustang, the wifes edge, and my explorer and every single one of them out of 60 in total came off with a 21 mm or a 13/16.

Your reply prompted me to recheck and, sure enough, a 13/16 will fit over about half of the OEMs, so I suspect the other half are buggered up just enough that they would likely require the slightly larger 21mm (13/16 = .8125", 21mm = .8268") or maybe even a 22mm. The fun never ends.