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Suprawill1

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Hi All,
The ST I just bought needs brake pads but I'm unsure as to which pack I have, the standard or the street. The wheels and tire size say street but the calipers aren't red. Don't know if the previous owner upgraded just the wheels.
I've attached a pic. (sorry about the rotor rust, rained last night)
Any thoughts? Thanks!
 

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Go to parts.ford.com, enter your vin, search for rotor, or Disc Brake Pad Set.
 

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Thank you sir!
 

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If the calipers aren't red these are standard brakes. Both the Street and Track packages had red calipers. Now... someone may have changed them but probably not.
 

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Agreed! What threw me is the wheels and tires are street pack.
 

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I painted my standard brake calipers and brackets red. I guess I cheated. Future buyer beware.
 

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Base brakes have 345mm front rotors, Street Pack have 363mm. Bust out the ruler if you're unsure. Also, the rear rotors on base brakes are solid and super narrow. Street Pack rear rotors are vented.
 

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Base rear rotors 320mm, StreetPack rear rotors 350mm.
 

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I have a question other than red is there a size difference. I have a 2021 Limited AWD Hybrid with 17000 miles which the dealer installed ceramic pads on @ 13000 to try and fix a problem related to bolt fracture auto packing brake where the pads seized on rotors after washing truck....after a few weeks a loud Grunting noise would be heard everytime the brakes were released. After 5 visits to the dealer I Paid to Have OEM rotors and Pads installed @ $578 The brakes are quite once again. I kept the old parts and found a few things which I'm trying understand. I tried looking up these pads online, but no luck. Finally went to Advaned Auto / Carquest. He said these are wrong pads, they are for Red Calipers, He also said they would have to had forced on to fit, which there are chaffing marks on both sets. Next he look at the rotors and said they're been compressed where the outlines are. Thought the parking brake sensor might the blame. I agree if the wrong pads were installed...

I'm guessing the pads are thicker or the caliper is wider and question using ceramic on stock rotors. This vehicle has 17000 miles last 3000 with ceramic pads.

appreciate the help
 

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I installed ceramic pads also and get that grunting sound upon brake release on the first outing of the day. When they're warmed up, it stops.
 

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On the Advanced Auto Website, the Explorer pad part numbers ending with 2331 are for Red Calipers, part numbers ending 2332 are for without Red Calipers.

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Here is a link with dimensions for those pads (With Red).

https://racingbrake.com/pd2231-391/

Hope this helps
 

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I installed ceramic pads also and get that grunting sound upon brake release on the first outing of the day. When they're warmed up, it stops.
On the Advanced Auto Website, the Explorer pad part numbers ending with 2331 are for Red Calipers, part numbers ending 2332 are for without Red Calipers.

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Here is a link with dimensions for those pads (With Red).

https://racingbrake.com/pd2231-391/

Hope this helps
Yes it does....18mm vers 17.6mm OEM .4 x 2 = .8 almost 1mm I don't know if that's a problem but looking at the pads I guessing it is. Thanks again
 

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Yes it does....18mm vers 17.6mm OEM .4 x 2 = .8 almost 1mm I don't know if that's a problem but looking at the pads I guessing it is. Thanks again
The pads I got are the proper size but as I posted earlier, still get that grunting sound upon brake release for the first few brakes of the day. They're Bendix brakes for the standard ST brake set.
 

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The pads I got are the proper size but as I posted earlier, still get that grunting sound upon brake release for the first few brakes of the day. They're Bendix ceramic brakes for the standard ST brake set.
 



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