Fair enough. Still not under 4K man.
Plus, who would want to spend the money on a stage 2 kit only to run out of fuel and limit power? That's disaster waiting to happen.
Also, on stock turbo's running E85 has its own issues, so add another 3K for Turbo's and you're very close to that 10K mark. Now, 600+ AWHP, your trans is on borrowed time and that alone is a 8-10K upgrade. Same goes for your engine, and we know how much internals go for.
Either way, thousands of dollars to run E85 is nuts, can we at least agree on that?
My take, I think it is stupid some ST owners are dropping 20K+ to run mid-high 10's. There are other SUV's that will do that with a 1/3 of the cost on a mostly stock drivetrain.
I don't want to keep mudding Goose's thread, so if you want to continue to discuss, let's take it to PM.