Lowering Springs: Lethal, Eibach, Steeda, H&R PROS and CONS

[SmittysST]

I also love my H&R's, but I haven't tried any other spring on this platform so I can't compare to others. Has anyone confirmed the H&R's bottom out? I only saw one post where the ST was driven over speed bumps without slowing down, and the OP stated a clunking noise was heard and never confirmed what was hitting. It sounds like the same noise when my rear shocks failed. About 18K miles on my H&R's with no issues so far.

How much more stiff are the H&R vs Stock? I’m not liking the paint finish quality I’m hearing about the Steedas. Bummer


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[ARC]

How much more stiff are the H&R vs Stock? I’m not liking the paint finish quality I’m hearing about the Steedas. Bummer


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It is unfortunate about the finish on Steeda but to their defense, when they heard about my problem, they offered me a replacement! I mean how many companies would do that now-a-days?
I will continue to use Steeda products. Even Ford won't cover some warranty claims!

 

[jrgoffin]

It’s not paint on Steeda’s parts, it’s a powder coat. That coating on suspension parts that flex will come off and lead to rust. They did offer me a replacement sway bar as well, but I have no desire to repeat the process every couple years. A Tier One supplier like Eibach probably won’t have coating issues, which goes the same for the OE components.

 

[SmittysST]

It’s not paint on Steeda’s parts, it’s a powder coat. That coating on suspension parts that flex will come off and lead to rust. They did offer me a replacement sway bar as well, but I have no desire to repeat the process every couple years. A Tier One supplier like Eibach probably won’t have coating issues, which goes the same for the OE components.

Yeah very true, not sure why I indicated "Paint" when its definitely a powder coat issue. I have heard that when getting springs powder coated in the aftermarket world to be vigilant in researching who you have do them. With shot peened material and the required heat needed it is a good idea to have someone who knows what they are doing. Is there a chance that Steeda has sorted out the issue with the failing coatings on their product? I assume when there is a issue with something like that they would work on a fix? I have just about replaced all my vehicles springs whether its to lower or raise and have never had an issue with coatings. If no change has been done, my choices have definitely lessened. Thx for all the great information!!

 

[SimonsGTS]

How much more stiff are the H&R vs Stock? I’m not liking the paint finish quality I’m hearing about the Steedas. Bummer


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They're not too much stiffer around town, you notice them more when you hit larger bumps. They stiffen up pretty quick, but they're definitely softer on this platform. I had a set on my 2018 and they were stiffer on that.

 

[Cdubya]

Well, when I was putting on my winter tire set the other day, I noticed one of my rear Steeda springs was severely corroded--not just surface rust! So much so that I am questioning whether it is safe. I sprayed it heavily with black Fluid Film (maybe I should have taken pictures first) and reached out to Steeda. Bought the springs in August 2020 so it's been a little over 3 years. Their response was they are not responsible for environmental causes. Disappointed to say the least. Especially when I mentioned that I had the original Steeda RSB that was rubbing on some springs. I cut the end off the RSB a year ago but the severe corrosion "may" have been due to contact with a sliding RSB. May go H&R instead since 3 years lifespan is kind of ridiculous!

Drenched in black Fluid Film but trust me, it's bad and much deeper than surface rust.

 

[Polo08816]

Well, when I was putting on my winter tire set the other day, I noticed one of my rear Steeda springs was severely corroded--not just surface rust! So much so that I am questioning whether it is safe. I sprayed it heavily with black Fluid Film (maybe I should have taken pictures first) and reached out to Steeda. Bought the springs in August 2020 so it's been a little over 3 years. Their response was they are not responsible for environmental causes. Disappointed to say the least. Especially when I mentioned that I had the original Steeda RSB that was rubbing on some springs. I cut the end off the RSB a year ago but the severe corrosion "may" have been due to contact with a sliding RSB. May go H&R instead since 3 years lifespan is kind of ridiculous!

Drenched in black Fluid Film but trust me, it's bad and much deeper than surface rust.
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Don't they have a similar problem with their sway bars rusting?

 

[Fade2black]

Good afternoon
trying to finish up my lethal lowering springs install, all done except I cannot get the top hat on front passenger side to line up with the small wedge side to the outside. Its in place but when I tighten the top nut it spins like 25 degrees to the left. Yes tightened with pass through socket while holding center spindle. It’s driving me crazy. Thanks for any help

 

[ConspicuousConsumption]

Good afternoon
trying to finish up my lethal lowering springs install, all done except I cannot get the top hat on front passenger side to line up with the small wedge side to the outside. It’s in place but when I tighten the top nut it spins like 25 degrees to the left. Yes tightened with pass through socket while holding center spindle. It’s driving me crazy. Thanks for any help

did you ever get it figured out?

 

[SmittysST]

Yes. Ordered Eibach springs which is supposed to be F 1.3", R 1.6" drop.

Did you get them installed yet?

 

[Cdubya]

Did you get them installed yet?

No, have not received them yet. I guess it's being drop shipped but no info from Lethal.

 

[SmittysST]

No, have not received them yet. I guess it's being drop shipped but no info from Lethal.

Ah copy that, cant wait to see and hear how they work out.....

 

[Fade2black]

did you ever get it figured out?

Yes, I finally figured it out, thanks
looks a hundred times better

 

[ARC]

I like my Steeda's but really disappointed that a lot of the paint is now gone and there is heavy rust--rears more so than fronts. Same with the rear sway bar. If you live up North, don't expect your Steeda springs and sway bar to last more than 5-6 years.

Same issue here. After about 15k here you go...

 

[JSouter84]

Love my H&Rs… I prefer the lower drop and it’s really close to dead even from front to back. I don’t haul anything so works for me. No issues after 6+ months. View attachment 20347

Looking at ordering my H&Rs right now actually, just finally got my new ST about a month ago. Do you recommend anything in addition to the springs for support or should I be with just the springs for now?

 

[Frankenstein]

Coming up on 2 years with H&R springs and I'm as happy now as I was on day 1. I like the even drop and that they're not super stiff so it still rides nice when going straight. In the turns the Steeda sway bar does its job, though after seeing some of the pics around here I need to start keeping tabs on the paint.

 

[michaelkturner1972]

Picking up my 2025 Explorer ST next week. Has anyone heard if the 24' springs will work on the 25's and if not when springs will be ready for the 25's and by who?

 

[SmittysST]

It is unfortunate about the finish on Steeda but to their defense, when they heard about my problem, they offered me a replacement! I mean how many companies would do that now-a-days?
I will continue to use Steeda products. Even Ford won't cover some warranty claims!

Legit! Good to know!

 

[Cdubya]

Legit! Good to know!

Well, apparently not everyone gets the same treatment because when I told them about the rust, they said environmental factors are beyond their control. But they did offer to send me a new rear pair for $170 shipped, which is better than getting a new complete set of springs.

 

[ARC]

Well, apparently not everyone gets the same treatment because when I told them about the rust, they said environmental factors are beyond their control. But they did offer to send me a new rear pair for $170 shipped, which is better than getting a new complete set of springs.

I have a rear set new in box that I will sell for 75.00 plus shipping. Steeda sent them to me but I went with eibach instead.