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New York State Inspection with a tune.

DsSalST

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Hey everyone, does anybody know of what the deal is with NYS inspection now, I am getting alot of mixed answers if a car will automatically fail inspection if it has an aftermarket tune on it, apperantly last year some law went Into effect, I can't seem to get a straight answer though, appreciate it.
 

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Just leave that terrible socialist/tyrant governed state and enjoy life more.
 

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Hey everyone, does anybody know of what the deal is with NYS inspection now, I am getting alot of mixed answers if a car will automatically fail inspection if it has an aftermarket tune on it, apperantly last year some law went Into effect, I can't seem to get a straight answer though, appreciate it.
Also in NY here. I read something on this forum (somewhere) about Ford refusing to do the inspection checks because the tune resets something and they can see it but your local shop may not. It comes down to the emissions test. I’d be interested in hearing back. I don’t have a tune but I’ve only just started modding.
 

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Unless I'm missing something, emissions inspections only check for fault codes in the emissions system. They're not pulling that much data from the ecm. Unless NY just sucks that bad.
 

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The check is for codes AND that all the monitored systems are “ready”. There are tunes that change O2 and Catalyst functional values such that one or more systems are never “ready”. The “ready” state means they are functioning. You can clear all fault codes with any/all systems “not ready”.
 

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"Not Ready" throws a code and a CEL.
 

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"Not Ready" throws a code and a CEL.
No, it doesn’t after a typically done reset for the applicable cel. Why would anyone take a vehicle for inspection with a light/code unless they just wanted it repaired? It WILL set a code if the “not ready” system(s) runs through another complete drive cycle of operation and still isn’t ready. This is why your vehicle can fail inspection without a code or light
 

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I can't speak for NY but I live in MA where they do emissions testing and my truck failed the inspection because it was tuned. It failed because the tuning changed some of the emmission system parameters to outside acceptable levels (I don't remeber which ones but I do remeber the O2 sensors and the EGR system) which automatically fails and red flags the vehicle. I had to bring my truck to a state inspection facility and the first thing they asked me was, "Is it tuned". Then he explained it to me and said to return it to stock, drive it for a few days and come back. When I went back it passed ok.
 

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I can't speak for NY but I live in MA where they do emissions testing and my truck failed the inspection because it was tuned. It failed because the tuning changed some of the emmission system parameters to outside acceptable levels (I don't remeber which ones but I do remeber the O2 sensors and the EGR system) which automatically fails and red flags the vehicle. I had to bring my truck to a state inspection facility and the first thing they asked me was, "Is it tuned". Then he explained it to me and said to return it to stock, drive it for a few days and come back. When I went back it passed ok.
Damn! I'm in MA. too & this seems like such a hassle to go through every year! I'm not tuned yet, but this is disappointing to hear. I have a CX-9 that just failed because he told me the E-brake has to hold at 2k rpm!!! Absolutely ridiculous!
 

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Damn! I'm in MA. too & this seems like such a hassle to go through every year! I'm not tuned yet, but this is disappointing to hear. I have a CX-9 that just failed because he told me the E-brake has to hold at 2k rpm!!! Absolutely ridiculous!
New York, Taxxachusetts... (making fun) not to get political here but I can understand why states that are more liberal have more restrictive emissions standards. I'd venture to say climate is more a left-leaning agenda thing. I'm curious if these tuning vs. emission test issues crop up in what you'd consider more conservative states?
"Not Ready" throws a code and a CEL.
Cheetoduster, whadda' ya' think?
 

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From what I understand, MA uses CA emissions standards. Very stringent! However, they consider the life of a vehicles emissions system to be 15 years. So once your vehicle is over 15 years it no longer is required to go through emissions testing, just safety inspection. My Ranger 07 Ranger just needs the safety inspection now so I no longer have to de-tune it.
 



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