nostrum HPFP & injectors stage 1 or 2?

[sleekone]

looking at Nostrum HPFP & injectors but not sure if I should start at Stage 1 or go right to Stage 2...Nostrum website says Stage 2 if you're thinking of upgrading turbos or built engine. Stage 3 says for sure needs upgraded turbos etc.
I probably won't be upgrading turbos any time soon if ever....
sooooo my question is - can I still install Stage 2? or stick with Stage 1..?
here's a list of current modifications.. im running 94 octane..

-HR lowering springs
-Steeda adjustable rear sway bar
-Whipple Mega Cooler
-SPD Performance 3” catted downpipes
-Borla Atak cat back exhaust
-Asanti Black ABL-20 Aries Gloss Black 22x10.5 +35 5x114.3MM 72.6MM
-Michelin Pilot Super Sport 305/35/22
-Romik REC-B running boards
-Rotora Front 8-Piston/405x36mm 3D drilled discs w/white finish/red logo
-Rotora Rear 4-Piston 380x29mm 3D drilled discs w/white finish/red logo
-aFe Power Momentum GT cold air intake system w/pro 5R filters
-Lethal Performance 2.5” Mid Pipes
-Velossa Tech Ford Explorer ST BIG MOUTH Ram Air Intake Snorkel
-Houston Speed Freaks HSF Ford Explorer Full LED kit
-Diode Dynamics Stage Series DOT/SAE x2
-Diode Dynamics Stage Series Fog x2
-Steeda Explorer ST Subframe Bushing Support Kit
-aFe Ford Explorer ST V6 3.0L (tt) BladeRunner Aluminum Hot and Cold Charge Pipe Kit - Red
-Livernoise Motorsports 2020 Explorer ST Stage 4 tune

 

[TMac]

If you're running 94 octane gasoline, why upgrade at all? You would only need an upgrade if you were planning on using more than a 50:50 mixture of ethanol.

 

[sleekone]

If you're running 94 octane gasoline, why upgrade at all? You would only need an upgrade if you were planning on using more than a 50:50 mixture of ethanol.

its like Everest...becasue its there. lol.

and from what Im reading on other posts it's still a significant upgrade...

no access to anything better than 93/94 octane in Canada...no E85 etc unfortunately..

 

[Cruising68]

Agree with others, if running premium and no e85, no reason to upgrade. Now if your plan is for bigger turbos down the road, no problem doing it in steps.


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[TMac]

its like Everest...becasue its there. lol.

and from what Im reading on other posts it's still a significant upgrade...

no access to anything better than 93/94 octane in Canada...no E85 etc unfortunately..

I don't know what you read, but if you're not using ethanol, there is absolutely no HP benefit to a fueling upgrade on stock turbos. But if you want to lighten your wallet, go for it.

 

[sleekone]

Agree with others, if running premium and no e85, no reason to upgrade. Now if your plan is for bigger turbos down the road, no problem doing it in steps.


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so what I’m hearing is…do the Nostrum Stage 2 bundle now, and upgrade your turbos next.

what kind of additional HP would that net?

 

[PlatinumST]

so what I’m hearing is…do the Nostrum Stage 2 bundle now, and upgrade your turbos next.

what kind of additional HP would that net?

Why go stage 2 when you can go stage 3?
https://nostrum.mybigcommerce.com/3-0l-ecoboost-ford-explorer-st-stage-3-injectors/

Use discount code TylerClark to save a few dollars

 

[sleekone]

Why go stage 2 when you can go stage 3?
https://nostrum.mybigcommerce.com/3-0l-ecoboost-ford-explorer-st-stage-3-injectors/

Use discount code TylerClark to save a few dollars

I like saving money lol

but what kind of increase could be expected from either stage 2 or stage 3 + turbos on 93 octane?

 

[PlatinumST]

I like saving money lol

but what kind of increase could be expected from either stage 2 or stage 3 + turbos on 93 octane?

According to the marketing people at Nostrum, the stage 2 have an increased flow rate of 24% over stock with a whp potential of 850 on pump gasoline and 750 on E85. The stage 3, once again according to Nostrums marketing people, have an increased flow rate of 96% over stock with a whp potential of 1,200 on pump gasoline and 1,075 on E85.

I believe Kevin's 2020 ST (not sure who the current owner is now) is pushing 774awhp and I believe they are running stage 2 injectors. I believe RSA is also using stage 2s on their builds which I believe are pushing north of 650awhp which can achieve 0-60 in as little as 2.54 second and 1/4 mile in 10.5, both (0-60 and 1/4 mile) according to Draggy, though I don't recall if they are running pump or corn.

There are a lot advancements being made now on the platform, so I think it all depends on what your goals and budget are as to which stage injector, if any, would be best for your desired setup.