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Recall Rear Bolt Fracture?

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Had a '70 GTO. The ST would def overtake it.
 

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Basically, Ford wants to save $.
As a manufacturer they tried to cut costs and pass on risks to consumers.

The 2.3L was spec'ed to only 'need' 1 Rear diff plate bolt, while the 3.0L was spec'ed to have 2.
This is flawed logic as the "1-bolt" rear diff setup was asymmetrical which means there is mechanical advantage, or "leverage" pressure being applied to that bolt at all times.
Some of us are tuning or pulling heavy tow loads, which puts enough pressure on that bolt to shear.

Although the front of the diff always has 2 bolts and stays connected, the rear bolts not only take a lot of the twisting forces, but keeps the diff properly aligned with the half-shafts. After the bolt shears the diff begins to sag, causing noise, vibration, and the possibility for the half-shafts to dislodge from the diff sockets.
It's dangerous AF and Ford should have never done something so cheap to a high performance vehicle. This honestly makes them look really bad.

EDIT: What should Ford have done? Have all the diffs be 4 bolts, be it 2.3L or 3.0L. If you have an SUV meant to tow, why would you not?
(How on God's green Earth do I have a Class IV tow package and 3 bolts? :rolleyes:)
 

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Had a '70 GTO. The ST would def overtake it.
It's amazing what technology has produced since the 60's and 70's. My 2005 GTO will run rings around my 68 GTO.
 

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It's amazing what technology has produced since the 60's and 70's. My 2005 GTO will run rings around my 68 GTO.
Yup, with 50 more HP and probably better gears.
 

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Getting the rear bolt, rear climate, and 360 recall fix installed april 16th, never buying a ford again
 

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Basically, Ford wants to save $.
As a manufacturer they tried to cut costs and pass on risks to consumers.

EDIT: What should Ford have done? Have all the diffs be 4 bolts, be it 2.3L or 3.0L. If you have an SUV meant to tow, why would you not?
(How on God's green Earth do I have a Class IV tow package and 3 bolts? :rolleyes:)
Well, there are plenty of vehicles out there with just one offset rear diff subframe bushing. If their fix does indeed work, I would have no problem with that. I think the 2025's will be telling. If Ford truly believes their fix works, we will see 2025's with the 3 bolt setup. If 2025's come with 4, like the 2020s, then Ford is probably not confident and don't want to dig their grave any deeper. To date, I have not seen any reviewer who attended the 2025 Explorer unveiling look underneath to see how many rear differential subframe bushing supports there are.
 

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Well, there are plenty of vehicles out there with just one offset rear diff subframe bushing. If their fix does indeed work, I would have no problem with that. I think the 2025's will be telling. If Ford truly believes their fix works, we will see 2025's with the 3 bolt setup. If 2025's come with 4, like the 2020s, then Ford is probably not confident and don't want to dig their grave any deeper. To date, I have not seen any reviewer who attended the 2025 Explorer unveiling look underneath to see how many rear differential subframe bushing supports there are.
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So I took mine in the other day for the recall and all they did was inspect the bolt and said it didn’t need attention at this time. Not sure wtf that means but clearly they didn’t replace the bushing or the bolt.
 

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Glad I purchased and already have a diff brace for my 2025 ST that is on order..
 

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I am not sure I'd be putting a brace on a brand new car under warranty. If the rear diff goes kaput, they could blame the brace.
 

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I’d like a peek under a 2025 PIU.
 

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Not worried about that in the least. I can play games with Ford if I need to.

I will be towing close to the maximum GVWR and I will take my piece of mind over Ford's design issues.
 

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So I took mine in the other day for the recall and all they did was inspect the bolt and said it didn’t need attention at this time. Not sure wtf that means but clearly they didn’t replace the bushing or the bolt.
I would find a new dealer. Unless you have a rare 2022 with both bolts.
 

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So I took mine in the other day for the recall and all they did was inspect the bolt and said it didn’t need attention at this time. Not sure wtf that means but clearly they didn’t replace the bushing or the bolt.
Does it have the bushing style with the "solid metal core" already?
 

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It’s just a single bolt. I don’t think it has anything updated. We haven’t had any issues with it and bought it brand new and we’re at 38,000 miles now.

Yea I may check with a dealer in Florida when we visit there.
 

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It’s just a single bolt. I don’t think it has anything updated. We haven’t had any issues with it and bought it brand new and we’re at 38,000 miles now.

Yea I may check with a dealer in Florida when we visit there.
My dealer said the same thing, however I told them there is definitely something going on back there. If I reverse then hit the brakes with medium to hard force there is a chance for a clunk that I can't track down. I still get the recall notices via mail and such. I guess they want me to wait until something breaks. It's a 2021 with only 18k miles on it.
 

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It’s just a single bolt. I don’t think it has anything updated. We haven’t had any issues with it and bought it brand new and we’re at 38,000 miles now.

Yea I may check with a dealer in Florida when we visit there.
What's your build date? Seems like after October 2022 they started putting in the revised bushing so no recall for those built after 10/2022
 

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It’s just a single bolt. I don’t think it has anything updated. We haven’t had any issues with it and bought it brand new and we’re at 38,000 miles now.

Yea I may check with a dealer in Florida when we visit there.
If the bushing's metal center "core" looks like this (with the hollow areas under the washer), it should be replaced with the "solid center" version as part of the recall.

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My dealer said the same thing, however I told them there is definitely something going on back there. If I reverse then hit the brakes with medium to hard force there is a chance for a clunk that I can't track down. I still get the recall notices via mail and such. I guess they want me to wait until something breaks. It's a 2021 with only 18k miles on it.
This happens to me too. Transmission was just replaced and it’s still happening. Has to be something with the rear diff.
 

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This happens to me too. Transmission was just replaced and it’s still happening. Has to be something with the rear diff.
It's scary you said that cause I swear my shifts feel funny to like sometimes it's hard or feels 'confused' about if it should shift or not... sometimes shifting up, down, back up all in a very short time. That's even when it's not under heavy load, just casually driving to town in eco mode or normal.
 



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