Safety Recall 22S27 Rear Axle Bolt Fractures

[Sgt1411]

Did a CAP Tour yesterday, they are only running afternoon shifts right now so when we were there in the day the line was stopped. Lots of STs on the line in various stages. I asked specifically if they were installing new bolts and they stated they were but there just wasn't enough for delivery to dealers for repairs to customer vehicles. If I had to guess I would estimate STs and Timberline's are the most frequently built right now, anecdotal based on what I saw.

 

[Cruising68]

This is how all 2020-2022 Explorers work when the Ebrake is on.

Definitely is more noticeable after the pcm update. Before I noticed it every once in a while. Now I notice it every time I come out of park. Sometimes it takes a decent stab at the accelerator to get it to release especially first thing in the morning.


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[Big Turk]

You could just turn off the parking brake with the manual activation/deactivation button.

 

[Cruising68]

You could just turn off the parking brake with the manual activation/deactivation button.

Yeah but I’m lazy


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[Big Turk]

I always use the parking brake, but I am hating the idea of it going on automatically when you place the vehicle in park. I have the two (four) bolt axle and just received my recall notice. I am hesitant.

 

[GearHead_1]

I always use the parking brake, but I am hating the idea of it going on automatically when you place the vehicle in park. I have the two (four) bolt axle and just received my recall notice. I am hesitant.

Not that my opinion matters but in your situation, I wouldn't be taking it in for the recall. The software update simply isn't addressing the concern many of us have. I'm worried about the darn thing breaking, not about it rolling away once it has broken.

 

[rasparks0967]

I am just hoping they get the PCM update soon so they can release the delivery hold. I had to be an oddball that ordered a Platinum hybrid. Here is a link to my vehicle: https://www.kriegerford.com/new-Columbus-2022-Ford-Explorer-Platinum-1FM5K8HW3NNA06100

 

[Big Turk]

I know, like I wouldn't know if the driveshaft became disconnected while trying to park. But I also have the backup camera recall to do (hasn't been an issue for me yet) and the left cat cracking recall to do when they get parts (that one I think I would like to get done). I figure when I take it in they will do all three.

 

[SDFlyer1]

So, I had the ECM reflash (part#1) of the axle bolt facture recall done today and noticed nothing different with parking brake engagement??, power level/acceleration seems the same with my butt dyno but did notice the little cars (Easter Eggs) are missing from the Adaptive cruise follow bars?

Update, ST going back into dealer next week, proved to them the parking brake auto set is not working.

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

Not that my opinion matters but in your situation, I wouldn't be taking it in for the recall. The software update simply isn't addressing the concern many of us have. I'm worried about the darn thing breaking, not about it rolling away once it has broken.

True.

But if the recall is not performed, does that give them an excuse to void the warranty on other issues?

So, I had the ECM reflash (part#1) of the axle bolt facture recall done today and noticed nothing different with parking brake engagement??, power level/acceleration seems the same with my butt dyno but did notice the little cars (Easter Eggs) are missing from the Adaptive cruise follow bars?

As I expected, the recall flash does not effect engine output.

 

[Dark Knight]

Did a CAP Tour yesterday, they are only running afternoon shifts right now so when we were there in the day the line was stopped. Lots of STs on the line in various stages. I asked specifically if they were installing new bolts and they stated they were but there just wasn't enough for delivery to dealers for repairs to customer vehicles. If I had to guess I would estimate STs and Timberline's are the most frequently built right now, anecdotal based on what I saw.

were they building any PIUs? are they installing new bolts only? so they aren't using the original better subframe?

 

[SDFlyer1]

But if the recall is not performed, does that give them an excuse to void the warranty on other issues?

Here in Canada land, if a manufacture recall is not performed, sometimes makes it tough to sell and transfer ownership privately because of the outstanding recall,
Ford might given a customer a hard time if the ignored the recall and they had an issue.

 

[Sgt1411]

were they building any PIUs? are they installing new bolts only? so they aren't using the original better subframe?

Yes there were many PIU's on the line in various stages. But mostly ST's and Timberlines. Lots of Aviators as well.....but that can change daily especially with only afternoon shift working. I joked about possibly being able to look at the bins of new bolts but nobody found it funny for some reason.

 

[ZookaRoo]

Yes there were many PIU's on the line in various stages. But mostly ST's and Timberlines. Lots of Aviators as well.....but that can change daily especially with only afternoon shift working. I joked about possibly being able to look at the bins of new bolts but nobody found it funny for some reason.

So Is it a new bolt and new diff cover? You also stated that engineering said it is not the 3.0L versions breaking, So is it the 2.3L and Hybrid versions? I just find that confusing for some reason.

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

... I joked about possibly being able to look at the bins of new bolts but nobody found it funny for some reason.

We're anxiously awaiting your new thread in the "For Sale" section:
"Have unexpectedly come across a few pocketful's of FORD's new rear axle bolts ... pm if interested."

 

[GearHead_1]

YOUR WELCOME

A little late to the show.

https://www.explorerst.org/threads/new-product-alert-the-awr-racing-rear-diff-mount.3637/

 

[Sgt1411]

So Is it a new bolt and new diff cover? You also stated that engineering said it is not the 3.0L versions breaking, So is it the 2.3L and Hybrid versions? I just find that confusing for some reason.

The specific engines affected are called out in the bulletin but when I was there someone asked specifically if the 3.0L was affected and the Engineer stated they have no data to support the 3.0L being affected. I saw 3.3L

 

[Dale5403]

The specific engines affected are called out in the bulletin but when I was there someone asked specifically if the 3.0L was affected and the Engineer stated they have no data to support the 3.0L being affected. I saw 3.3L

Could he be only answering to the PIU's?

 

[CareerFiremanGuy]

The specific engines affected are called out in the bulletin but when I was there someone asked specifically if the 3.0L was affected and the Engineer stated they have no data to support the 3.0L being affected. I saw 3.3L

I don't get it ...

The 3.0L ST makes 400 hp/415 lb ft and has a 3.31 3.58 rear axle.
The 3.3L Hybrid makes 318 hp/322 lb ft and has a 3.58 rear axle.

So the lesser hp/torque combo has the problems, but not the higher hp/torque vehicle?
The only way this could be is if the Hybrid uses a different (i.e. "weaker") rear subrame set up than the ST.

 

[GearHead_1]

I don't get it ...

The 3.0L ST makes 400 hp/415 lb ft and has a 3.31 rear axle.
The 3.3L Hybrid makes 318 hp/322 lb ft and has a 3.58 rear axle.

So the lesser hp/torque combo has the problems, but not the higher hp/torque vehicle?
The only way this could be is if the Hybrid uses a different (i.e. "weaker") rear subrame set up than the ST.

The ST 4WD has a 3.58 rear end.