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SCT X4 tuner / tune results !!
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I started out with a gearhead tune because I had an sct livewire from my previous car. I too got sick of all the zfg comments, so since I have a dragy and go to the track a lot, I spent the money on a zfg e50 tune. Turns out everyone was right and I was wrong. I've managed 11.6 with intercooler and intake. It is 100% worth the money if you are able to get ethanol and do an e50 mix.
If you want to stick with SCT devices, you can't beat an auto octane tune from gearhead for $175. I switched back to that over the winter, and on just 93 octane it ran 12.1 on dragy. With some ethanol I managed an 11.9 out of it. The shfiting on the gearhead is crazy smooth too, it shifts like a 60K dollar vehicle should shift.
If you want to stick with SCT devices, you can't beat an auto octane tune from gearhead for $175. I switched back to that over the winter, and on just 93 octane it ran 12.1 on dragy. With some ethanol I managed an 11.9 out of it. The shfiting on the gearhead is crazy smooth too, it shifts like a 60K dollar vehicle should shift.
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The only reason I made the switch to ZFG was I already had a HP device, and it still cost me 650. 450 for the tune and 200 for 4 credits.
In the end, I'm glad I switched. With just a whipple IC and a zfg 93 tune I managed a 12.09@112.30 and a 3.75 0-60 on an E30 mix. I would have never made a run that quick on a 5 star tune. The best I ever got on 5 star was a 12.59 on 93 with the IC. To be fair, the best I ever got on the ZFG tune with 93 in the tank was a 12.38 and a 3.95 0-60, I dropped 3 tenths by switching to an E30 mix.
In the end, I'm glad I switched. With just a whipple IC and a zfg 93 tune I managed a 12.09@112.30 and a 3.75 0-60 on an E30 mix. I would have never made a run that quick on a 5 star tune. The best I ever got on 5 star was a 12.59 on 93 with the IC. To be fair, the best I ever got on the ZFG tune with 93 in the tank was a 12.38 and a 3.95 0-60, I dropped 3 tenths by switching to an E30 mix.
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Those are some pretty good results, but like most other people on this site I only wanted, and got, enhanced speed and pull over the stock Ford settings. I'm not racing the truck, and I'm not making money at the track so the SCT tuner and files have given me all I need. I have a Dragy on the way so I'll find out how much better than stock the SCT tune is, and that's that. I won't spend money on an intercooler, springs, or anything else after this, although I did install the AWR diff bracket.
Another point is that I feel the ZFG tune with HP device and combined with the points thing is not something I would have, or will choose in the future. And to install a Whipple cooler for the sake of a few tenths is border line wasteful, UNLESS you intend to drive competetively in order to bring home the bacon. I have the money and it would be easy for me to build a very fast ST, but why? Probably just for fun.
And what the hell are points anyway. sounds like ZFG has found a way to make money for doing nothing. You pay for the device, you pay for the tune, and then need points. Sounds like BS and I'm glad now that they never replied to me when I was buying my tune. I own my tuner, it came with a great tune, and there are plenty of other companies out there providing custom files for the ST for around $175 if I wanted one. So who's to say there aren't files just as good as the files from ZFG at a much lower no points needed price.
Anyway, I have what I want and need at this point. The Dragy is on the way, I have a few appearance items installed and on the way, so and I'm happy with the results. Special thanks to the staff at SCT who have a phone number to call, people to return calls, and a super great all around product for $325 complete.
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Totally understand your standpoint and don't give into the pressure, ha.
On the HPT thing with "points". They are credits and are mandated by the tuning platform and not ZFG. With HPT, you can use the same device across multiple vehicles to tune at the same time, the credits is just how they control the access to tune the individual vehicles. SCT locks a device to one vehicle at a time to a max of 5 vehicles until a reset is needed. There are pros and cons to both platforms.
On the HPT thing with "points". They are credits and are mandated by the tuning platform and not ZFG. With HPT, you can use the same device across multiple vehicles to tune at the same time, the credits is just how they control the access to tune the individual vehicles. SCT locks a device to one vehicle at a time to a max of 5 vehicles until a reset is needed. There are pros and cons to both platforms.
The “points” system allows you to use the same device on as many cars as you want…just buy the credits needed for that vehicle. SCT you would need to buy a new device for each car you want to tune.
As far as this: “So who's to say there aren't files just as good as the files from ZFG at a much lower price.”
Because there’s not. He’s quite simply the best there is to tune one of these things.
As far as this: “So who's to say there aren't files just as good as the files from ZFG at a much lower price.”
Because there’s not. He’s quite simply the best there is to tune one of these things.
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That would be a biased opinion, when in reality I'm sure there are some tunes out there as good as any from ZFG. The problem is that you or I, or anyone else would need to purchase the tunes then compare the tunes to a known baseline, which in this case would be a dynometer. Not dragy or track times seen on the web. I will agree that based on the number of ZFG users from this forum alone ZFG appears to be the leader in that respect.
I would say it's all subject to what you have going on. In my case with an E50 tune and the mods running a 12 flat maybe 11.85 1/4 mile it would be my opinion, "Is it worth 1000 dollars to run three tenths of a second better?" All in the owner. To me not really as I already have my setup. I'm sitting on downpipes now cause my question is what's the point? What will I gain beyond more turbo sound?
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For those of us that couldn’t care less about drag racing or wringing every tenth or extra bit of power, the X4 is a great bang for the buck if you just want to up the fun factor. An intercooler and even a canned tune work wonders, and definitely not as pricey as some of the others. The Steeda intercooler/X4 package is a perfect example.
