Thinking of buying a previous Buyback

[KenoshaST]

I am right there with you as being a deal hunter. I might consider it as it will still have the manufacturer's warranty. Also, some dealers have technicians that are more knowledgeable about issues compared to others. I agree you should take it for a day and keep it overnight. Some of the gremlins with the ST only occur in the morning.

I understand and agree. Being a CPO vehicle gives me some reassurance that the dealerships will like me coming in for issues under warranty (more billable hours back to Ford). I'm not big on life disruptions while its in for service though.

 

[Blackssr]

I'm thinking about just that. The price difference between this one and a new one is about $13,000. I'm a deal hunter but wonder if its worth the headache.

I had no idea it was 13k.... However I had general motors buy back a 2017 Escalade... It was one of the most problematic vehicles I've ever owned. I hope they just destroyed that car and not flipped it to someone else. It was horrible.

 

[Blackssr]

I am right there with you as being a deal hunter. I might consider it as it will still have the manufacturer's warranty. Also, some dealers have technicians that are more knowledgeable about issues compared to others. I agree you should take it for a day and keep it overnight. Some of the gremlins with the ST only occur in the morning.

The issues may not show their evil selves in only a day of ownership... It may take weeks to know and see all of the quirks that forced the manufacturer to lemon law this vehicle... Still not worth it in my opinion. Even if you take the extended warranty the hassle of being without the vehicle takes any Joy one would have by purchasing a new vehicle to begin with.

 

[Blackssr]

I understand and agree. Being a CPO vehicle gives me some reassurance that the dealerships will like me coming in for issues under warranty (more billable hours back to Ford). I'm not big on life disruptions while its in for service though.

Good luck whatever you decide and thank you so much for your service.

 

[KenoshaST]

The issues may not show their evil selves in only a day of ownership... It may take weeks to know and see all of the quirks that forced the manufacturer to lemon law this vehicle... Still not worth it in my opinion. Even if you take the extended warranty the hassle of being without the vehicle takes any Joy one would have by purchasing a new vehicle to begin with.

I understand what you are saying and that what I'm thinking long and hard about. I just went through getting a new engine under warranty in my VW last summer. Took 3 months for the new engine to arrive during the Covid overreaction. Three months in a loaner vehicle.

 

[KenoshaST]

Good luck whatever you decide and thank you so much for your service.

Thanks!
Hopefully my service and the service of so many others will matter. So much going on in our country.

 

[Blackssr]

I understand what you are saying and that what I'm thinking long and hard about. I just went through getting a new engine under warranty in my VW last summer. Took 3 months for the new engine to arrive during the Covid overreaction. Three months in a loaner vehicle.

In a previous thread you stated a $15,000 difference. Can you please give more details. Is this compared to a brand new 2021 model? Perhaps you can look on cars.com to see if there's any mint used vehicles without issues attached to them.

 

[KenoshaST]

Another piece to the puzzle. Does anyone know what the acronyms "CLP" and "OSL" mean?

 

[Blackssr]

Thanks!
Hopefully my service and the service of so many others will matter. So much going on in our country.

The world is in the crapper for sure.. I work with young people in my community who are recovering addicts or just troubled young people. I have a special person, a former heroin addict and pornstar who just celebrated 5.5 years of sobriety and is my closest friend. In a troubled world I worry about her constantly being stuck home without human intervention. She lives in California, I am in South Florida, she is 25 years old I am 51. The bond we've created through this sobriety journey for her is unbreakable but I worry about her constantly. If the world wasn't in the crapper I wouldn't worry as much because she would have more diversion and interaction with others. I am not very religious but I hope the world gets back on track soon and we get all lives back. I am so sure others are struggling as well as Lexi (the girl I sponsor and mentor). I am not sure how the world got in this predicament.

 

[KenoshaST]

In a previous thread you stated a $15,000 difference. Can you please give more details. Is this compared to a brand new 2021 model? Perhaps you can look on cars.com to see if there's any mint used vehicles without issues attached to them.

The CPO 2020 price is listed as $42,000. I think I can get that down another $1500. The closest equivalently equipped 2021 I can find is priced at about $55,000. Not sure if I can get that down. Maybe get it down close to $52,000? Not good with math in public. I guess the difference is more like $11,500 if I'm as good as I want to be in negotiating. Of course, this won't work if the dealer is monitoring my posts here. HA!!

 

[KenoshaST]

The world is in the crapper for sure.. I work with young people in my community who are recovering addicts or just troubled young people. I have a special person, a former heroin addict and pornstar who just celebrated 5.5 years of sobriety and is my closest friend. In a troubled world I worry about her constantly being stuck home without human intervention. She lives in California, I am in South Florida, she is 25 years old I am 51. The bond we've created through this sobriety journey for her is unbreakable but I worry about her constantly. If the world wasn't in the crapper I wouldn't worry as much because she would have more diversion and interaction with others. I am not very religious but I hope the world gets back on track soon and we get all lives back. I am so sure others are struggling as well as Lexi (the girl I sponsor and mentor). I am not sure how the world got in this predicament.

Great job helping out!! This covid overreaction is unfortunately impacting all the great things we had going on in our country in a negative way. It seems to be enhancing the broken parts of society at the same time. Not being political. Just being a realist.

 

[Blackssr]

Great job helping out!! This covid overreaction is unfortunately impacting all the great things we had going on in our country in a negative way. It seems to be enhancing the broken parts of society at the same time. Not being political. Just being a realist.

Whatever you decide to do with this car please keep this thread updated I'm real curious to see how it works out. 12K plus is quite a bit of money. What is a typical 2020 used going for without the baggage of a lemon law buy back?

 

[KenoshaST]

Whatever you decide to do with this car please keep this thread updated I'm real curious to see how it works out. 12K plus is quite a bit of money. What is a typical 2020 used going for without the baggage of a lemon law buy back?

I'll update as I go. I plan to go see the 2020 ST on Saturday. It's about a 1.5 hour drive and if I feel comfortable, I'll buy it then. They also have new 2021 on the lot to compare it to. On the other CPO 2020s I've seen, they are in the $46,000ish range with more miles.

 

[Zackracing]

There was an issue with motor mounts at one time. That could be the cause of the engine shake at idle. Would be interesting to see if these were replaced. If they let you take it for a day, I'd drive it hard and leave the stereo off and listen and feel for every vibration and rattle. Take it over some rough roads and give it a real thorough test drive for 24 hours. Use every feature and make sure they all work. That is a big discount! I was offered about half that amount for a 2020 loaded that had 5000 miles on the odometer. My concern was if problems had been corrected, would any show up later? Being OCD about my vehicles, I was afraid that if anything went wrong I would begin to question my choice. But I think that if you wring it out for 24 hours and look into the history, your gut will tell you what to do. Best of luck, let us know how it goes!

 

[KenoshaST]

I drove the ST yesterday and spent a lot of time checking it out. I'm still deciding but am leaning towards buying it. I did notice the the build date on the driver's side B-pillar was different than what was on the window sticker. 7/19 on the vehicle vs 8/9/19 on the sticker. I verified the VINs.

 

[Cdubya]

Before you drive off with it: make sure you have the fuel funnel. Code card for driver's side door key code access. And I cannot stress the importance of the 20U29 service bulletin re: module updates which is intended for your case specifically--updating older builds to new calibrations for sale purposes. Module updates may not be approved after the purchase but YMMV.

 

[CapTom]

I drove the ST yesterday and spent a lot of time checking it out. I'm still deciding but am leaning towards buying it. I did notice the the build date on the driver's side B-pillar was different than what was on the window sticker. 7/19 on the vehicle vs 8/9/19 on the sticker. I verified the VINs.

The date on the window sticker is supposed to be the date it was printed. The one on the B pillar is supposed to be the actual manufacture date.

 

[KenoshaST]

Before you drive off with it: make sure you have the fuel funnel. Code card for driver's side door key code access. And I cannot stress the importance of the 20U29 service bulletin re: module updates which is intended for your case specifically--updating older builds to new calibrations for sale purposes. Module updates may not be approved after the purchase but YMMV.

I'm not sure what you mean by "fuel funnel"

 

[CapTom]

I'm not sure what you mean by "fuel runnel"

In order to add fuel from a portable can you need a special funnel that opens the capless gas fill. I comes mounted somewhere near the spare tire.

 

[Zackracing]

Well, the fuel funnel explains the issue I had...I had some gas I stored when the Covid thing dropped. I put stabilizer in it and finally decided to start using it. My regular funnel spilled gas down the side unless I poured it very slowly...I was sweating after one 6 gallon can...I have to look for the funnel next time! Not to hijack the thread but thanks for the info!!