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BrooseDaMoose

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#21
Just thought of this, but DMS doesn’t allow different fuels to be used, just different time for each drive mode for daily driving or performance. You have to have another file loaded on to use an ethonal mix right?
Yes, that’s correct. Our fuels are only 10% around here and I don’t have the need for it so I’m not about to start mixing for higher content. The highest we have is 93 and you have to know where to go to get it. Most places only sell 91. I like being able to tune it down and then switch to Race when I want to mess around. My daughter just turned 16 so she’ll be getting her permit and I wouldn’t want her driving it when it’s in Race mode. There is a big difference in the drivability between Race, Performance, and Stock+. So, what works for me might not work for someone else. I’m used to using an SCT X4 with my truck and whenever I want to switch between tunes, I have to get the X4, return it to stock and then upload the tune I want. PITA! I love being able to switch to Race when I want to by just turning the dial. If I could get E30 or E50 I may have gone a different route, but we don’t. It all depends on what you want and what’s available to you.


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#22
A 93 DMS tune is also good for up to E30 so you don't have to change tunes there. Only if you go up to E50 or E85 do you have to reflash.
 

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I use Goosetuned and I'm very happy with it! The drive ability when not getting on it has been amazing. Mine was tuned when I bought it with 5star with a SCT tuner and its night and day difference. Shifts smooth and is ready to take off when you smash the go go peddle. Very good communication and gets revisions of your tune back when sending logs within the hour! I have the stage two package which comes with an intercooler. I have downpipes and a thermal 3in exhaust coming this week and when it comes in, I can't wait to see and feel the power added. I currently have a FenFab V1 intake, with a Borla cat back. I'll be selling the catback when I get my new exhaust. The thermal comes with new flex pipes and all.

ZFG is another solid guy and helped me trying to get my PCM flashed due to the previous owner not leaving the SCT handheld in the car when they traded it in. He uses HP tuners and they are a great tuning platform as well.
DPs and exhaust won't give you much more ooomph. DPs are rated to give 20-25 more HP which you won't feel much with the butt dyno. 3" exhaust will probably be louder but again, the stock system will hold 700HP so it's not a bottleneck unless you're pushing more than that. It will help however if you get upgraded turbos and run ethanol.
 

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DPs and exhaust won't give you much more ooomph. DPs are rated to give 20-25 more HP which you won't feel much with the butt dyno. 3" exhaust will probably be louder but again, the stock system will hold 700HP so it's not a bottleneck unless you're pushing more than that. It will help however if you get upgraded turbos and run ethanol.
Yeah, that's true but any little extra power and sound is nice! I did buy a E50 tune, just waiting until it gets warmer to get that dialed in as well.
 

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Yeah, that's true but any little extra power and sound is nice! I did buy a E50 tune, just waiting until it gets warmer to get that dialed in as well.
Yes, power is accumulative. It all depends on what you may settle for in HP/$. Over 2K is a bit of expense for 25HP and some growl but if you have that to play with ...
 

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Yes, power is accumulative. It all depends on what you may settle for in HP/$. Over 2K is a bit of expense for 25HP and some growl but if you have that to play with ...
I just wanted to go ahead a ditch the horrible flex pipe issue that these cars are plagued with and I've heard numerous times about bad factory cats going bad. Just wanted to really get ahead of the curve. I got everything on black friday so it wasn't such a pocket hit.
 

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I just wanted to go ahead a ditch the horrible flex pipe issue that these cars are plagued with and I've heard numerous times about bad factory cats going bad. Just wanted to really get ahead of the curve. I got everything on black friday so it wasn't such a pocket hit.
I did DP's and exhaust. I had the same logic as you plus the sound and looks make me happy. Aesthetics are a thing. Plus with all the other mods/tune and hey an extra 25HP adds up. I'd like to think the DP's also help with turbo spool up, then again not like stock it was a big deal.
 

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I did DP's and exhaust. I had the same logic as you plus the sound and looks make me happy. Aesthetics are a thing. Plus with all the other mods/tune and hey an extra 25HP adds up. I'd like to think the DP's also help with turbo spool up, then again not like stock it was a big deal.
I feel the turbo picks up boost a little faster compared to stock, but I could just be imagining it
 

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I feel the turbo picks up boost a little faster compared to stock, but I could just be imagining it
You're just imagining it. The stock system is said to be good up to 700 Hp. Even upgrading the turbos, the stock system works just fine.
 

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You're just imagining it. The stock system is said to be good up to 700 Hp. Even upgrading the turbos, the stock system works just fine.
oh well then lol at least I shouldn't have to worry about them breaking at least
 

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I feel the turbo picks up boost a little faster compared to stock, but I could just be imagining it
I agree with this. The little bit less back pressure has to help the turbos spool faster even if only a little. True turbos and stock exhaust good for good HP but DPs definitely help. Not the best value mod for sure but they are satisfying


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You're just imagining it. The stock system is said to be good up to 700 Hp. Even upgrading the turbos, the stock system works just fine.
The DPs have been proven to gain HP. Cat back exhaust don’t gain anything.
 

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I just wanted to go ahead a ditch the horrible flex pipe issue that these cars are plagued with and I've heard numerous times about bad factory cats going bad. Just wanted to really get ahead of the curve. I got everything on black friday so it wasn't such a pocket hit.
Are you referring to the factory cats welds cracking or cats themselves burning out? Haven’t heard of them burning out.
 

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Are you referring to the factory cats welds cracking or cats themselves burning out? Haven’t heard of them burning out.
wields cracking, or they start throwing codes
 

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IDK when somebody posted faster spooling you said he was imagining it and the stock exhaust was good to 700hp. I don’t know about others but to me it sounded like you were denying improvement with DP’s. Then again, maybe I’m just confused


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IDK when somebody posted faster spooling you said he was imagining it and the stock exhaust was good to 700hp. I don’t know about others but to me it sounded like you were denying improvement with DP’s. Then again, maybe I’m just confused


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LOL!! :LOL: I was just saying he was imagining that he could feel the turbo's spooling faster. I know the DP's add Hp but even that I don't think you would feel with the butt dyno.
 

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LOL!! :LOL: I was just saying he was imagining that he could feel the turbo's spooling faster. I know the DP's add Hp but even that I don't think you would feel with the butt dyno.
lol that I can agree with!


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